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Old 07-28-08, 09:49 AM
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I am thinking about swapping out my GT bull horn bar for a nice flat bar and a set of these https://www.ergon-bike.com/ I do use the bar ends so I think they are nessassary for me but I have also been having trouble with my hads going numb on long down hill sections of the trail
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I have a riser bar AND I have bar ends on my dual squishy bike. Short Ergo ones. While the fashion police will try and say WHY it's ghey or rediculous, I could give a crap. To each their own...

This bike sees nothing but off-pavement riding. Lots of XC single track, and some fire roads. Multiple hand positions help in many ways. Wouldn't ride without them.
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Its as so many have said - personal preference. I prefer not to have them, I feel like I'll hook something on them, either a tree or my wrist if I'm coming off.
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bar ends hooking trees?

I used bar ends for years in tight woods sitchyachuns, and I really don't think those concerns, while shared by many, are justified. If you flail so badly that you hook a tree with bar ends, you're gonna smash the hell out of your hand without them. And crash anyway. Which you totally deserve if you run into a tree.
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Old 07-28-08, 05:23 PM
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Question is what purose do they serve. Once heard a bike mechanic call them lethal. Fall on them with a little force and they can act as knives.
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Question is what purose do they serve. Once heard a bike mechanic call them lethal. Fall on them with a little force and they can act as knives.
That's redonkilous.

They're pretty blunt, you would need to hit them pretty hard. Worst most people would see is some bruising.


Though that one kid get did get his groin impaled by some....
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Question is what purose do they serve. Once heard a bike mechanic call them lethal. Fall on them with a little force and they can act as knives.
easier climbing and multile hand positions

Please explain the "knives" comment? The only time I've hear of people being cut by handlebars/barends was either when the bars broke or if the moron was stupid enough to ride without barplugs.
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Originally Posted by stevesurf View Post
I'm thinking of adding them on the off-road build; I've had them on the Y-50 for years, and have used them when I move from trail to street.

I found an interesting grip (Ergon Grips) in this month's Bike Mag below:

I hear only old guys use those grips.
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Old 07-28-08, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by santiago View Post
I hear only old guys use those grips.
Doesn't 66 use them?
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Old 07-29-08, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by santiago View Post
I hear only old guys use those grips.
I may be old, but I plan on living forever.

BTW, what grips do you young chickens use?
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Originally Posted by stevesurf View Post
I may be old, but I plan on living forever.

BTW, what grips do you young chickens use?
Doh! You were just the catalyst for the joke and not the intended victim.

I am not a young chicken but I am very respectful of mtnbiker66 given that he is my elder. In any case, I have some ODI lock-on grips on my XC bike. I did buy and install the Ergons on my city/utility/family bike (Surly Big Dummy) and really enjoy them.
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Old 07-29-08, 07:37 PM
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I have them on my Trek VRX 200 and do like them. They are great for climbing hills and different hand positions. 1+ on getting them hooked on things. There have been more than one occasion that I have been thrown to the ground from the tree that jumped out into the trail, or caught on something. They also do work at protecting the hands some what from tree branches and what not you might find on a singletrack.
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Old 07-30-08, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stevesurf View Post

BTW, what grips do you young chickens use?
Ourys, duh.
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Old 07-31-08, 01:31 PM
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i just got a pair or short carbon ones yesterday and I really like them. Besides looking badass (IMO), they make climbing a lot easier and I think are a much more comfortable grip. As for the danger factor, as long as theyre facing forward they shouldnt impale or bruise more than a handlebar could
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Old 07-31-08, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YungBurke View Post
i just got a pair or short carbon ones yesterday and I really like them. Besides looking badass (IMO), they make climbing a lot easier and I think are a much more comfortable grip. As for the danger factor, as long as theyre facing forward they shouldnt impale or bruise more than a handlebar could
come again?

I would think everyone would have em then no?
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Old 07-31-08, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by C Law View Post
come again?

I would think everyone would have em then no?
You ever tried them? The difference isnt huge, but they provide essentially a longer bar to lever against while pedaling and also make it easier to get into a good position for me at least.
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Old 07-31-08, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by C Law View Post
come again?

I would think everyone would have em then no?
Certainly not everyone. There are still some XC pro riders who use them.

I have 'em with straight bars on my HT just for old times' sake. I like 'em.
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You ever tried them? The difference isnt huge, but they provide essentially a longer bar to lever against while pedaling and also make it easier to get into a good position for me at least.
yes. they were pretty standard fare for mountain bikes in the 90's. I still have a few pair and some people I ride with still use them.

they offer different hand positions and sometimes greater leverage. saying that they make climbing easier implies (to me at least) that you can lay down extra wattage or something with the same effort.

maybe I'm picking nits............
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[quote=C Law;7182109]yes. they were pretty standard fare for mountain bikes in the 90's. I still have a few pair and some people I ride with still use them.

they offer different hand positions and sometimes greater leverage. saying that they make climbing easier implies (to me at least) that you can lay down extra wattage or something with the same effort.

maybe I'm picking nits............[quote/]

Well leverage does not imply greater wattage, just the lever effect. Levers allow more force to be applied per unit moved but require more units to be moved proportionally, so ideally power is the same, but in practice power is probably delivered less efficiently Essentially a lever is the same principle as a higher gear. This really doesnt have anything to do with wattage in my eyes. I dont know im not trying to fight over it but for me I noticed a subtle change in my ability to perform technical climbs on the trail.

What see law said.

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I've tried them. I used them for years and years. I don't miss them and my climbing hasn't suffered in the least.

All absolutes suck.

(Nice subtle joke) I agree I wasnt trying to make an absolute statement. If i was doing a dissertation I would have qualified this, but I thought it was understood that I can only speak from my own experience on this topic.

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I realize that barends aren't as popular as they used to be....and that for shorter, more technical rides folks can do without and not miss them...but...I'm a big fan of the Great Divide/Tour Divide race(s) and almost everyone doing that runs barends.....aero bars too are not uncommon. Yes, it's a different type of off road riding but.......
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wattage
CRANK IT UP TO 400W!

Wrong forum?
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Do any sustained out of the saddle climbing at all and you'll need em.
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Do any sustained out of the saddle climbing at all and you'll need em.
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So you like to restrict hand position and limit leverage eh? Interesting.

btw, I'm talking about miles of sustained climbing.
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Originally Posted by JoeOxfordCT View Post
I realize that barends aren't as popular as they used to be....and that for shorter, more technical rides folks can do without and not miss them...but...I'm a big fan of the Great Divide/Tour Divide race(s) and almost everyone doing that runs barends.....aero bars too are not uncommon. Yes, it's a different type of off road riding but.......
I think it has more to do with alternative hand positions than anything. keeping your hands at the same contact point the whole 2600 miles would be too much
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