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Old 07-24-08, 05:59 PM
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Bar Ends necessary or even relevant ?

I'm noticing that bar ends rarely come standard on new bikes anymore. I'm a big fan of the Great Divide Race and/or the Tour Divide, and while you'll see some folks sporting bar ends and even aero bars you'll also see some folks still running straight bars only.

Are bar ends still necessary and/or relevant ? For folks who use the mtb's double duty as road cruisers or commuters are they still necessary ? I used to be a big fan of Ergon grips but it seems they have an inordinantly hard time bringing new products to market. Can't figure that one out.....but from prior experience I noticed that I only used the bar ends on the road and for climbing out of the saddle....all off road riding (..and I didn't do a lot) was done with my hands on the bars only.

Anyway, contemplating buying a 29'er to ride for exercise, on roads, fire roads & non technical singletrack. I've been mostly a roadie but I just don't have to time to do the group rides and put on the spandex and am now looking for more of an exercise bike, and/or something to ride with the wife & kids. My last mtb was a size large Cannondale Caffeine 3. Prior to the purchase I had sat on both a medium and large frame and felt the large frame was more comfortable in the shop. However, once on the road I had continual issues with hand numbness, even running Ergon grips & bar ends, that I've never had to deal with with my 56cm road bike. I have since sold the Cannondale mtb and am contemplating purshasing a Caffeine 29'er F4 and just want to make sure I'm comfortable on the bike long term after the purchase......

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If you have a lot of extended climbing like Washington their useful. But, if you don't it's just something to get hooked on a tree.
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personal preferance.
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Originally Posted by JoeOxfordCT View Post
I'm noticing that bar ends rarely come standard on new bikes anymore. I'm a big fan of the Great Divide Race and/or the Tour Divide, and while you'll see some folks sporting bar ends and even aero bars you'll also see some folks still running straight bars only.

Are bar ends still necessary and/or relevant ?
On a longer ride having three hand positions instead of one is very nice. If all you ride is State Park trails you don't need bar ends. But if your idea of a good ride is a six hour backcountry jaunt, bar ends make sense. So I use bar ends.

But beware: the fashion police will arrest you if you run barends on risers.
 
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I like mine.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I like mine.
You WOULD.
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I like mine because most of the time my hands are more comfortable when they're perpendicular to the bar. They also saved my hand one night when I was "doored" really badly. I can see xcracer's point about getting hooked if you're on a trail though.
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depends on what you like
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Why have them as standard equipment when you can charge $20 - $40 for an aftermarket sale?
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As I spend more time on a road bike, I have begun to appreciate more hand positions while riding. For that reason, I have been considering a flat bar with bar ends. I have not made the switch yet, though. In the end, it comes down to personal preference.
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Do a search.

And then see that it's a preference thing. Throw some on and go for a ride. If you dont like it, take them off.
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And then see that it's a preference thing. Throw some on and go for a ride. If you dont like it, take them off.
I use the Cane Creek bar ends: https://www.canecreek.com/ergo-control-ii-bar-ends.html

I usually am on the bike for a few hours at a time and I like to be able to change hand positions for comfort.

The fashion police comments around here always crack me up. Who really cares what others think if it works for you?
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as a singlespeeder who doesnt have them i can see the benefits. im looking for a short pair to possibly put on my ride. it would be nice for some hills and to alternate hand positions.
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I always thought that bar ends looked kind of Wal-Mart to me......but only because it seems like the only bikes that seem to have them as standard are from there.

I do appreciate the extra hand positions, and the numbness that I was experiencing from the single-position flat bar that came on my Trek 820 had me seriously considering them. I decided to go with these trekking bars ($22.00 from Nashbar), and love 'em:



With the stock bars I couldn't ride five miles without experiencing numbness. With these I just rode 17 miles with no problems at all.
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Old 07-27-08, 06:15 PM
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Barends

Strongly dislike bending my wrists the other way (parellel to the h-bar), especially as I've had the Lunate bone removed from my left one.
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The additional positions the bar ends afford you on the MTB cannot be overstated. I ride my MTB on the road quite a bit, so that's pretty important. I can get pretty long on the bar ends on my hard tail, almost like being on the hoods on my road bike. Love that.
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Originally Posted by vocal mime View Post
Since this is the mountain biking forum, has that bike ever been ridden off-road (the gravel shoulder of the road even)?
Not much, I admit. I got it when I started riding, and got it basically for free from an airline frequent-flyer program. After I started riding I discovered that my riding habits would be more oriented to road cycling, so I bought a Surly Long Haul Trucker set up with skinny high-pressure tires.

I use this Trek for riding on less-than-perfect surfaces, such as country roads that have a lot of loose gravel on them, and for rain/winter riding - thus the fenders. I do, however, think that the trekking bars are pertinent to this question. They give the option of multiple hand positions, without the "cow-horn bush-catching" properties of bar-ends.
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Old 07-28-08, 07:38 AM
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especially as I've had the Lunate bone removed from my left one.

Kienbock's disease ?
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Originally Posted by JoeOxfordCT View Post
Kienbock's disease ?
Bicycle accident @ 14/15yrs old. Killed the blood supply to the bone. I knew something was wrong but there was nothing visible on x-rays for years.

Once the bone had shrunk to 1/3 of original size and abcessed then it was really noticeable on the x-rays. The surgeon that removed it said as he picked it up it crumbled.

Good thing it was in his hand and not in my wrist

edit: Just checked wikipedia. You're right, trauma to the blood supply resulting in necrosis and fragmentation of the Lunate bone, otherwise known as Kienbock's
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Bicycle accident @ 14/15yrs old. Killed the blood supply to the bone. I knew something was wrong but there was nothing visible on x-rays for years.

Once the bone had shrunk to 1/3 of original size and abcessed then it was really noticeable on the x-rays. The surgeon that removed it said as he picked it up it crumbled.

Good thing it was in his hand and not in my wrist
You probably already know this but you are most likely looking at some arthritis in your future....I was reading about Kienbock's disease and they said that after you remove the bone, the other bones will begin to move and shift around....
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You probably already know this but you are most likely looking at some arthritis in your future....I was reading about Kienbock's disease and they said that after you remove the bone, the other bones will begin to move and shift around....
[layman description] Had pain, swelling, loss of range of motion within ~6months of the accident. Removal of the Lunate decreased the pain and swelling and increased the range of motion but resulted in a noticeable, 5-8mm, collapse of the wrist and slight arthritic swelling (I think) at the styloid process. Also, there's loss of rotational movement of 15-20degrees when comparing wrists. [/layman description]

The surgeon offered a plastic lunate replacement but he said, due to the calcification process, that would merely increase the speed of the arthritis.
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[layman description] Had pain, swelling, loss of range of motion within ~6months of the accident. Removal of the Lunate decreased the pain and swelling and increased the range of motion but resulted in a noticeable, 5-8mm, collapse of the wrist and slight arthritic swelling (I think) at the styloid process. Also, there's loss of rotational movement of 15-20degrees when comparing wrists. [/layman description]

The surgeon offered a plastic lunate replacement but he said, due to the calcification process, that would merely increase the speed of the arthritis.
I hear ya.....I broke my right heel (calcaneus) in an auto accident in 2002. Had a strap & screws put in to stablize it so it could heal in the proper position. I too have lost some range of motion and my right calf is noticeably smaller & weaker than my left.....
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I hear ya.....I broke my right heel (calcaneus) in an auto accident in 2002. Had a strap & screws put in to stablize it so it could heal in the proper position. I too have lost some range of motion and my right calf is noticeably smaller & weaker than my left.....
Damn that sucks. There's a pro skier who managed to break both of his attempting, and missing, a HUGE gap. He spent a very long time in plaster.

Have you tried something like Powercranks for the imbalance? They'll force your legs to do exactly the same amount of work every time you ride. They've even helped people with permamnent nerve damage balance their legs, that is, not have one leg significantly stronger than the other.

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I'm thinking of adding them on the off-road build; I've had them on the Y-50 for years, and have used them when I move from trail to street.

I found an interesting grip (Ergon Grips) in this month's Bike Mag below:

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