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Old 07-26-08, 10:31 PM
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Helmet Upgrade Time

ALright, boys... it's time I upgraded my helmet. I recently found out that I get a great deal on Giro helmets through the ski shop I work in (we carry their winter helmets) and I just happen to be in the market for a good helmet. Money is no object here, but I am sticking with Giro as the deal is too good to pass up. I have been looking at the Xen a lot. I ride a lot of XC and it's incredibly humid here so the more vents the better. Visor is of no consequence to me, nor are looks... I do, however, have a rather large head so I need a wider helmet so it doesn't sit so high atop my Barry Bonds-esque melon. Anyone have any input here?
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Old 07-27-08, 06:31 AM
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I have the Xen and find it comfortable. I don't consider it a hot helmet as the venting seems adequate.
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Old 07-27-08, 06:49 AM
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I have had great luck with Giro and still use an Atmos but recently bought a Fox Flux. I like it alot. It goes lower in the back for a little extra protection. Had it a few months now and I can give it a good recommendation.

Edit: Just reread and saw your sticking with Giro. good luck. They make good stuff.
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Old 07-27-08, 09:02 AM
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im looking for a new helment as well.
I still ride with my old style BMX helment lol. In Georgia, that just wont work.
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Old 07-27-08, 08:52 PM
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I have a Giro Xen and I think it's fantastic.



VERY Good ventilation, GREAT fit. Only complaint is that of all the helmets I have had, it does a poor job of redirecting sweat away from your eyes. Maybe helmets aren't meant to do that, but this is the first where I constantly have sweat pouring into my face/eyes/nose.

Picked up one of those Halo thingies to resolve that problem. Only down side on the Halo is that I look like the friggin' Karate Kid when I take my helmet off.

But back to the helmet, the Xen fits better than any helmet I have ever owned (Bell, Specialized, Giro), I have never gotten hot in it as the ventilation is very good. Looks kinda cool too...
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Old 07-27-08, 08:54 PM
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how much does the Xen run? Im starting to like that helment.
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Old 07-27-08, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
how much does the Xen run? Im starting to like that helment.
I would NEVER AGAIN buy a helmet without trying it on. A lot like shoe fit- a personal thing. Just a bit of advice, FWIW.

Also, I've never had a helmet that dealt adequately with sweat. Some kind of headband/headsock really helps. I've got the Halo band and for me it rocks.
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Old 07-27-08, 09:15 PM
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another vote for the xen... I love mine, lots of ventilation, light, and is pretty good looking. I also use a Catlike Kompact too, really light, and tons of ventilation, but hard to find and expensive.
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Old 07-28-08, 12:34 AM
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I own the Hex. Made by Giro and one step down below the Zen. I can't tell the diffference between the two. Possibly the weight is ever so slightly lower on the Zen. Yhey look very similar and share virtally the same features. No idea what features the Zen posseses that the hex does not. I believe I bought it for around $80.00.
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Old 07-28-08, 08:10 AM
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80.00? To expensive for a fricken helment.
I'll stick to my BMX at that price.,
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Old 07-28-08, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
80.00? To expensive for a fricken helment.
I'll stick to my BMX at that price.,
come on 80.00 is not that much cash qwhen u think of all e mnoey most of us dump into bikes or that part to save X grams

and in all honestly think of what your protecting... you mess up ur brain and u could be in a wheel chair being spoon fed.
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Old 07-28-08, 09:41 AM
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I believe the z(x)en is more expensive than the Hex. Not clear as to why.
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Old 07-28-08, 10:16 AM
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Vents are different and allow for more airflow and the materials make it lighter. The retail for a Xen is $130, but I doubt anyone really pays retail anyway.
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Old 07-28-08, 11:14 AM
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come on 80.00 is not that much cash qwhen u think of all e mnoey most of us dump into bikes or that part to save X grams

and in all honestly think of what your protecting... you mess up ur brain and u could be in a wheel chair being spoon fed.

My 30 dollar BMX helment can take a harder impact, and still not crack than those helments can. Just its not vented well.
I can throw my helment against a tree, and know, that I can still wear it on my head without a worry.
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Old 07-28-08, 11:29 AM
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Keep it real guys, All helmets meet the same safety requirements, the difference is weight and venting. And no helmet should be used after a significant impact.
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Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
My 30 dollar BMX helment can take a harder impact, and still not crack than those helments can. Just its not vented well.
I can throw my helment against a tree, and know, that I can still wear it on my head without a worry.
Hands down the dumbest post you've made yet. As mentioned above, ALL helmets sold must meet the same requirement. As for throwing a helmet at a tree, just because you don't see the weakened structure does not mean it isn't there. But please continue to do this. Maybe you will get a nice concussion and will stop posting this kind of stupidity.
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Old 07-28-08, 11:36 AM
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I was using an example, I didn't say I actually did this.
I was referring to the thickness of the Plastic Shell.
I feel safer in a BMX is what I was referring to.


I'm disgusted that you would actually hope someone gets a concussion.
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Old 07-28-08, 11:47 AM
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Cheeto's helmet (Pro-tec Ace, Brian Patch signature model) doesn't meet the same standard as bike helmets.

It can in fact take multiple impacts without compromising its level of protection. However the ultimate level of protection is lower than an approved bike helmet.
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Old 07-28-08, 12:03 PM
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My head just don't fit a Giro. Every time I put on a Giro it feels like the helmet is trying to mash my brain out of my ears from the pressure on my forehead. Bell helmets fit like a gove. I wouldn't take a Giro if it was given to me because of the fit, but they are nice helmets. Actually I wish they did fit me. Definately try test fitting a helmet before you buy.

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Cheeto's helmet (Pro-tec Ace, Brian Patch signature model) doesn't meet the same standard as bike helmets.

It can in fact take multiple impacts without compromising its level of protection. However the ultimate level of protection is lower than an approved bike helmet.
Translation: will take lots of small hits but won't take one big hit? I think I'd rather protection from the one big one...
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I think I'd rather protection from the one big one...
That's fine, and completely up to you. I guessing you wear a DOT approved motorcycle helmet?
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Old 07-28-08, 12:15 PM
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Because it doesn't have as much padding or foam right?
It can take a lot of hits because the foam is more flexible, and the outer shell is a lot thicker.
It can take some hits.

and dang gastro, you're good lol.You must have the same helment?
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Old 07-28-08, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by the1amradio View Post
ALright, boys... it's time I upgraded my helmet. I recently found out that I get a great deal on Giro helmets through the ski shop I work in (we carry their winter helmets) and I just happen to be in the market for a good helmet. Money is no object here, but I am sticking with Giro as the deal is too good to pass up. I have been looking at the Xen a lot. I ride a lot of XC and it's incredibly humid here so the more vents the better. Visor is of no consequence to me, nor are looks... I do, however, have a rather large head so I need a wider helmet so it doesn't sit so high atop my Barry Bonds-esque melon. Anyone have any input here?
Xen is a decent helmet. I personally like the E2. When I purchased the E2 (I have two in two colors) I also tried on the Xen, Animas, Couple of Bells, and a couple of Limar. Although I liked the looks and construction of the Limars a lot, they did not fit me well. Then I went with the Giro E2s. Animas was also a good fit but I did not like how the back portion of the helmet feels and looks. E2s are a very nice XC helmet, built well and the RockLock system works very well to give you a secure fit. I dont like the roundish looks of the Xen. but that a personal preference.
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The issue with trying it on first is it's a prodeal and I don't think anyone in town carries the Xen. I will check though... But hell, for $40, who can say "no"? I think I'll order it in the G-fabric color for a little added style (kinda looks like gucci, ironic and awesome). I have tried an E2 and it fits well and was definitely a nice helmet, but I do like the round more board-sportish look of the Xen. I might pick up a full face helmet (I can't recall what Giro's is called) just because, plus since the shipping will be the same price anyway, it couldn't hurt.
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Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
Because it doesn't have as much padding or foam right?
It can take a lot of hits because the foam is more flexible, and the outer shell is a lot thicker.
It can take some hits.

and dang gastro, you're good lol.You must have the same helment?
No, Gastro has the Jay Adams Fly Away helmet. He looks super rad in it.
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Originally Posted by Cheeto View Post
how much does the Xen run? Im starting to like that helment.
Money burning a hole in your pocket?


Perhaps I'm just a road-wiener, but I always use road helmets, whether I'm MTBing or road biking. I used to use Giro Pneumos, but I bought a Giro Ionos to see if it's worth the money.

It's not. But it's blingy.
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