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Old 02-20-04, 10:39 PM
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Softride stems--where'd they go?

Anyone know what happened to the Softride stems that worked as suspension for your handlebars instead of your fork? I'm in the market for one but can't find any current info on them. Were they discontinued? Are there any other similar suspension stems (for quill stems) out there?
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I know Girvin(Pro-Flex) made some...http://search.ebay.com/search/search...t&query=girvin
And here is a Softride...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=36135
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Originally Posted by UTKlein
Just to note that the Girvin flexstem is of a different design than the Softride flexstem. The Softride stem is actually a coil-sprung parallelogram linkage while the Girvin unit is an elastomer-damped mono-pivot. The Softride stem is more tunable with plusher suspension qualities while the Girvin stem is simpler and has less travel. Curiously enough, the Girvin/ProFlex/K2 forks (I love my Crosslink) use a coil-sprung air/oil-damped parallelogram link... while their infamous rear suspension setup was made famous with mono-pivot designs (Evo frame). For a while (early on) they used elastomers for the rear suspension too. If you want some feedback on the Softride stem, you might want to ping ngateguy as he's a proud owner of a Softride 700.
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Yes, there is another. I have one. I forget the name. Had the paralellogram design, but done with CNC machining. It's on a bike that has been sitting in the cellar of my LBS for a year.If nobody remembers the name of the thing, I'll try and take a look. It was about $350 new. Works pretty well, but there is a slight time lag with these designs. Which is not a bog deal, except when you hit something fast, it transfers some of the jolt.
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Old 02-22-04, 07:08 AM
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Had 1. Went Over Bars Too Often With It .threw It Out.bought Rockshox.problem Solved
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Hi Thetas,
did you have the Girvin? I avoided it for that reason. I kept the preload fairly stiff on mine, and never went over the bars.
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Old 02-22-04, 12:52 PM
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Those are dangerous pieces of junk!!
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Hi Jim,
you could say that about the Girvin, I guess. But I wouldn't agree if you're saying the parallelogram designs were junk. With those designs, the travel is straight down. With a simple pivot, it's down and forward. Might not sound like much of a difference, but your regular shocks go straight down.... I liked mine.
And I never went over the bars.
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i dont remember the name of it but i do remember it was a gift from my brother and it did as you said, took away some jarring on big stuff but it did not keep the tire on or near the ground and so that is why i got rid of it.it was a coil/oil combo with lots of adjustment options that made it real cool but once i went over the bars or hit underbrush due to a lack of control it was bye bye.it too was a paralelagram design and as i said it was nice but it was dangerous for me.best of luck in finding one and i hope it works well for you.maybe it was my bike setup too,i rode fireroad type trail back then with lots of big hits
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Thanks for all the input on this. Here's one more question: I have a 1 1/8" quill stem right now but I think the Softrides (don't know about Girvins) used a shim to fit anything bigger than 1". I've seen used Softrides around but never heard mention nor seen pics of any shims. What did they look like exactly and could I create one if I found a unit without one?

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This is a nice version of the softride, I came up with little info doing searches last month.j
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Hi,
that is similar to mine. Mine is an older version of the one Alu one in the pic here...
http://www.bikepro.com/products/stems/soft.html
I had no idea they were still made. Cool.
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The damper equipped Flexstem looks pretty cool. Judging by the purple anodised pivot bolts, I'd have to guess it is from around 1997 or so. I don't think the Flexstems made before the mid-1990s came with a damper although I suppose it could be an aftermarket-added part. I'm pretty sure the anodised purple craze faded out completely by 1998.

I'm still not a big fan of flexing stems for mountain biking but I think they're probably okay for road biking. Either way, I can recognise it for the fine piece of engineering work that it is.
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Well,
they were ok for casual trail riding. If you're going nuts out there, I can see that there might be a problem. But for most bumps, you just slide your butt back when you hit a bump. That's all there is to it.
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Where did they go?

Those things are garbage you'll get better results with a carbon bar. Besides what have you got against doing it the right way with a suspension fork? I can't stand those goofy stems
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Hi,
I remembered incorrectly.I checked, my stem is the JP. It looks like Softride was imitating the JP, as the later models fooled me into thinking they were one and the same. The JP was more expensive, and worked better. here is a couple opinions about it
http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/10.1.html
http://www.bicycle-forum.com/tech/Su...ms_428039.html
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