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Old 03-03-04, 10:59 PM
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Why no treks?

Ive been reading alot of threads on the board regarding "which bike" and i very rarely see anyone recomend a trek bike starter bike... or just a trek period. But in turn i read that alot of people started with them. Is there a reason why, or is it just coincidence? What are most peoples feelings on treks? Just curious.
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Old 03-03-04, 11:20 PM
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I think it would be a fine bike to start out with. In fact I was looking at a trek as my first non-department store bike.

But my uncle told me I could get more for my money if I bought used and I ended up with a cannondale.
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As a starter RETAIL bike, Treks are fine, especially when you just don't know that much about the sport. Usually, the bike stores that sell them will also offer some sort of "free minor tune-ups for a year" deal as well, but this is reserved solely for big corporate chains. In the 6000+ and 8000+ series, treks are generally regarded as intermediate level bikes, but nothing fancy, no matter what groupo Trek will thow at it.

Honestly, they're just a step down from Specialized in my book but both are priced just about the same for a beginner bike. The only Trek I know full well to avoid is the 820. It is so heavy, it wouldn't bend if thrown at an oncoming car.
Bottom line: if you want the best bargain either wait for an annual sale or just get a used bike with few miles and good parts.
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Treks are too common. Every posuer has one. Good bikes, just getting a bad rep by association.
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Old 03-04-04, 08:39 AM
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Why not two or more? I love Trek.
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Trek makes a good bike, I just don't really like their graphics. I just like other brands BETTER, so I recommend the one's I like more.

I prefer, Specialized, Kona's, and one or two others depending on the application. i.e., Jamis makes a nice Steel Hardtail, and Iron Horse make some really nice FR and DH rigs for the money.

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Old 03-04-04, 09:06 AM
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is it just me or do they have a more scrunched geometry? They just never seem as comfy as specialized or giant.
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Old 03-04-04, 11:17 AM
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The one thing that turns me off of Trek bikes is that thier tube diameters are HUGE, to me they look kinda comical.
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Treks are good bikes. Giant Trek and Specialized are all the same in my book.
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Old 03-04-04, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by crgowo
Ive been reading alot of threads on the board regarding "which bike" and i very rarely see anyone recomend a trek bike starter bike... or just a trek period. But in turn i read that alot of people started with them. Is there a reason why, or is it just coincidence? What are most peoples feelings on treks? Just curious.
Nothing is wrong with any of the well known MTB names. Once you get above the "Crap" bikes, then you are into some pretty good manufactures, and all of them make good bikes. The only problem is that most "experienced" bikers will have a certain type of bike that they like, and if they are like me, they may have decided against certain Manufacturers. My own personal dislike of Treks is that in general, they are 2 to 3 lbs too heavy, are set up for comfortable riding, rather than handling, and they have too many own brand bits attached to them that I do not like. I would not only class Trek in this category, as I feel the same about Marin, Giant,Rocky Mountain, Specialised and several others. I would prefer to go to certain Quality manufacturers, (And if you want me to name just one it would be Kona) that in my mind offer a better handling bike, with better specification, lighter weight and offers better value for money.

Having said all that, ALL the named brands will make and sell a top quality bike that I would gladly own and ride, but my wallet is not big enough.
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I think you will also find here a few of us are dh and freeride guys. Trek has no quality bikes for extreme use. For xc I am sure they are fine. Giant has the same problem. Lots of good xc, a fantastic dh bike but imo they have no good fr bikes. That and I think Trek's are ugly .

Specialized offers high end options in everything. Right now there isn't a major manufacturer offering as much diversity in product. Kona does come close though.
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Old 03-04-04, 05:28 PM
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Why is it when someone asks about ANY brand of bike but Specialized, all the Specialized fanatics come outta the woodwork to defend their brand???

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I have never actually noticed that. Most people I know fully support a couple of other brands. Myself it is either Kona or Specialized (this is based on a lot of testing and the strenght of the freeride lineups). But then again I don't do anything with xc so I fit a very specific market and my bikes and purchases are better represented by Kona or Speclialized than any other 'big' company.

Now I would go into boutique bikes and could name another 10 or 15 bikes I could own...but I live on a budget
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Treks are too common. Every posuer has one. Good bikes, just getting a bad rep by association.
Ironically I haven't seen a trek in 3 years. Except the odd tourist riding xc. Excluding the one shop selling them
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Holy crap

http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2004/...nhillframe.jsp

2900$ for a single pivot dh frame. Holy crap thats more expensive than almost all boutique bikes. Thats just ridiculous, no wonder I never see any. Jeeez...
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Treks are too common. Every posuer has one. Good bikes, just getting a bad rep by association.

That is ridiculous!

Haven't been to this forum for awhile but I saw the Trek post and it caught my eye. I have a Trek. I am a small chic and that is the only brand that fit me since they make smaller frames. I couldn't afford a women's bike since they jack the prices up. I've had mine 2 years and off road bike 2x per week on average. I am not doing extreme stuff but I can hold my own on the trails I know. Anyway, saying it is a poser bike seems juvenile. I am very happy with my bike. I spent $400 on my Trek 4500 and I'm sure I bike more than a lot of people who spend $2000 on their bikes. I like my beefy frame. I will agree that Kona's are sweet looking bikes but the store in town actually stopped selling them and switched to Giant (and that is what I got my husband). When I asked why they switched, they said they could sell the same bike/components for $100 less per bike by changing brands. Trek and Giant may not look as good as Kona's but some of you may just be prejudiced and being loyal to the name. That goes for Cannondale too. I would totally consider getting another Trek even if I went up to a more expensive bike in the future. I just think if none of you have had a Trek than you are talking smack. If you've had a couple Treks and they have fallen apart on you and ridden like junk, then I'd see where you were coming from. I certainly wouldn't insult any of the other brands that I have not owned.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Ironically I haven't seen a trek in 3 years. Except the odd tourist riding xc. Excluding the one shop selling them
Come to Wisconsin. Everyone and their grandmother has one here.
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Im still kinda new to mtn biking but on our local trails i see about 20% of people using them. Mine and my friends have been great for us. Although i dont have a basis of comparison but i think they were good bikes. Thats why i was confused as to why no one ever recommends any, or i shouldnt say never. I just thought everyone knew something i didnt
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Originally Posted by crgowo
Im still kinda new to mtn biking but on our local trails i see about 20% of people using them. Mine and my friends have been great for us. Although i dont have a basis of comparison but i think they were good bikes. Thats why i was confused as to why no one ever recommends any, or i shouldnt say never. I just thought everyone knew something i didnt
Ya know it is probably just because they are so well known, and people want to march to their own drum to be different...
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Why is it when someone asks about ANY brand of bike but Specialized, all the Specialized fanatics come outta the woodwork to defend their brand???
You want to see people fanatic about defending a brand? Start a "Cannondale Sucks" thread and let the flame wars begin!

I think Specialized has a lot of loyal customers due in part to shear number of bikes sold. Same thing with the other major manufacturers. Remember, Trek owns, Klein, Gary Fisher and LeMond, so they have a very large market share. You'll find many Trek devotees as well. I guess I am one. I own a LeMond Road bike and I love it!


I just think if none of you have had a Trek than you are talking smack.
You don't have to own one to know if you like it or not. I've test ridden my share and have repaired Treks a plenty. (Bike mechanic for +/- 19 years)

I have owned so many different brands and models I can't even begin to list them all. Through all my years, I think Specialized bikes are more suited to my preferences and style of riding. I try NOT to bash any "real" brand. Heck, I try to understand and empathize with Huffy owners.

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personal aesthetics: they look like sh*t...everybody has one

personal, but justified: they put me in a way upright position... as does Specialized (which, *felt* cheap to boot). i know it can be remedied by new stem and bar... but why when other bikes fit me better out-of-the-box?

to add, i didnt find gary fishers that nice either. fuji and giants suited me the best
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i love my Trek. it's also over a decade old. i wouldn't recommend a new Trek anymore though; i don't feel the quality is as good, especially when compared to other bikes with similar price points. i think the company got too popular and started to cash in a little on name recognition...
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I rode a fuel 100, and it was superb...a truely awesome bike. I then rode the liquid...was so freakin dissapointed, you don't even know. The reach was like 5" shorter then the fuel, and to get an decent reach, I had to have an enormous frame...with not enough standover.

Maelstrom, I think you are right though. they have very little in the freeride market...however the freeride market is so small right now...I see very few people around here doing any freeriding...theres not a whole lot of places around here that couldn't be handled with a FS XC bike...
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Why not two or more? I love Trek.
Nice!! Love the Brooks Saddles!
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Originally Posted by xta
That is ridiculous!

Haven't been to this forum for awhile but I saw the Trek post and it caught my eye. I have a Trek. I am a small chic and that is the only brand that fit me since they make smaller frames. I couldn't afford a women's bike since they jack the prices up. I've had mine 2 years and off road bike 2x per week on average. I am not doing extreme stuff but I can hold my own on the trails I know. Anyway, saying it is a poser bike seems juvenile. I am very happy with my bike. I spent $400 on my Trek 4500 and I'm sure I bike more than a lot of people who spend $2000 on their bikes. I like my beefy frame. I will agree that Kona's are sweet looking bikes but the store in town actually stopped selling them and switched to Giant (and that is what I got my husband). When I asked why they switched, they said they could sell the same bike/components for $100 less per bike by changing brands. Trek and Giant may not look as good as Kona's but some of you may just be prejudiced and being loyal to the name. That goes for Cannondale too. I would totally consider getting another Trek even if I went up to a more expensive bike in the future. I just think if none of you have had a Trek than you are talking smack. If you've had a couple Treks and they have fallen apart on you and ridden like junk, then I'd see where you were coming from. I certainly wouldn't insult any of the other brands that I have not owned.
I didn't say Trek was a posuer bike, but that posuers seem to gravatate to them, as if riding a Trek makes them a better rider. Trek is becoming the next Schwinn, the obvious American bicycle company. If you're ever around non-cyclists, they tend to refer to bikes as "treks" as if it were a common noun similar to xerox and kleenex.
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