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Old 09-22-08, 09:39 PM
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What would you want in a custom hardtail?

This has been on my mind for the past few days.

I would like a 4130 chromoly frame that would take a 120-160mm fork. A low bb height for center of gravity(let's say 12" bb height, very aggressive angle more along the lines for dh type riding, sliding dropouts, post mount disc brake tabs on the frame, 150mm rear spacing with an 83mm bb with room to fit a 26x2.7 tire.
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all of that and under 21 lbs
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I want a hardtail that has a solid triangular sheet of steel welded from the seat tube to both stays

Totally, Chromo with a slack geo and enough beef to handle my "hack moments". 140-160mm would me nice. I do like short chainstays too...so I can get it up
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Originally Posted by Quick_Torch C5 View Post
all of that and under 21 lbs
all of that plus a built-in mini fridge and toaster.....and it still must weigh under 21 pounds.
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Old 09-22-08, 11:01 PM
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all of that plus a built-in mini fridge and toaster.....and it still must weigh under 21 pounds.
Don't forget the frappuccino holder for the local Canuck.
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What do I want in a custom hardtail?

Hmmmm...

titanium
80-100mm travel
quick geometry
flat bars
v-brakes





Couldn't be happier. (23 1/4 lbs., BTW)
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Old 09-24-08, 08:31 PM
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29 inch wheels with a carbon fiber fork (yes rigid) and strait bar
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Old 09-24-08, 08:41 PM
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already got it. designed more on the hadcore trail end of things vs. the hucker thing, though it can handle quite a bit of that. more a trail hucker than a lipped dj hucker. the slack angles i prefer, gussets and thicker tubes where wanted, the little touches i like, but basically no frills. gobs of fatty tire room. gears, SS, internal hub down the road. disc only. frames with v and disc mounts always look odd to me, especially if you spent the dough to get it custom that way.

only thing i'd do differently on a new one would to be have the same geometry designed around a shorter a2c on the fork. that would be for something new though - i'd not alter my current frame other than a 1.5 headtube to give all sorts of options to fine tune front end hieght and angle. wasn't really an option with this frame though.



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Steel or Ti 29er (actually even Al would be ok, but probably steel). Designed around a travel adjust fork now that there's the 80-100-120 Reba with maxle. Beefier rather than light, but not a DH rig, more of a trail/play around a bit bike. Don't have much of a head for geo, but since all the new 29er forks seem to have a lot of offset, probably around a 69 degree HT angle with the fork set at 100. Obviously a bit steeper with 80mm for long climbs, and slacker when set at 120 for more technical stuff. Shortish chainstays would be good. I don;t need a triple. If necessary, I'd make it only take a single ring up front to give more tire clearance with the short chainstays.
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I think a good 4130 frame with a 69' HA...about 6.5lbs...must have vertical support strut at least on the non drive side for I.S. strength. Prob. a 17" would work. 22.75" TT. Basically a 17" version of the Instigator or something like that.
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I got to give this a shot. I want Ti or steel, 650b front wheel, 26 back. 70 degree head angle with a 145mm fork, but able to handle 160 without turning like a canoe. Can carry 2.6 inch rubber with plenty-o-room to spare. Strong but still under 6 pounds. belt drive with internal hub.
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I'm gonna change mine.

My ideal hardtail would be a single pivot desing with around 6" travel
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Ti or aluminum SS frame, probably Al with an anodized finish, or carbon would be sweet! Yeah, Carbon!
Horizontal dropouts that take disc brakes
71/73 geometry
room for 26 x 2.5" tires F/R
Rigid carbon disc-only fork
No rack mounts
No fender mounts
No bottle bosses
STIFF through the BB
32x20
XT pedals
flat carbon bar
carbon stem
Thomson post
Flite saddle
Hope Minis [bling!]
A nice light wheelset. I9 maybe?
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator View Post
150mm rear spacing
12mm Maxle
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Get something that can handle a 170mm travel fork.
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