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Old 11-12-08, 08:39 PM
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Sram "XX"

This is breaking news! SRAM has announced a complete MTB gruppo, called XX, to be released next summer. Check it out!

http://www.bikematters.com/main/2008...ike-group.html

What are some of your predictions? I'm guessing carbon galore, and SRAM-branded suspension.
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Old 11-12-08, 08:50 PM
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hmm i can't see 10spd on a mtn bike simple cause the adjustment tolerances are so much tighter, 10sp road bike takes me a while to get set up perfectly what with trim adjusts combined with 10spd and i have to have it perfect lol. On my mtn bike I can bash around on the thing and it still shifts fine, i think my derail hanger is a tad bent and the only gear i have trouble with is my easiest, but w/e who knows

Either it will be x0 but lighter (more carbon and titanium) and maybe they will move some off the other parts to the sram name (instead of avid/rockshox). Or it will be some revolutionary technology we can't possibly predict and shouldn't try

IT JUST BETTER NOT BE GOLD PLATED or w/e that yumea crap is
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Screw that, I'm perfectly happy with SS now.
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crap, more stuff to spend money on
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crap, more stuff to spend money on
yepp.
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Old 11-13-08, 09:27 AM
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If it is a 2X10, I'll be very surprised. Aside from the tighter tolerances, I need my granny gear. If they set it up like a compact road crank at say 50t/34t I won't be able to climb a lot of the hills in our area and it's rare that I need the big ring, especially one bigger than a 44t. My bet would be an improvement on their X0 line to make it lighter with suspension and brakes rebranded for use with the group. I hope that they also make the rear derailleur more compact, like the Shimano Shadow.

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Rear cassete could be 11:37 which would make having a granny gear up front pointless.

That said, I still don't like it.
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thats great and all, but will I be able to run Sram XX shifters with my XTR rear gear railler?
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator View Post
Rear cassete could be 11:37 which would make having a granny gear up front pointless.

That said, I still don't like it.
Rear cassete could be 11-34 which would make having a granny gear up front pointless.
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Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
Rear cassete could be 11-34 which would make having a granny gear up front pointless.
Hey, I can use all the mechanical advantage I can get my hands on when climbing.
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Me too, although 11-37 would be just enough to make me drop the granny ring.
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A 37t cog could do double duty as a rotor.
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^^ system integration at it's best!
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I want to know if this will be compatible with their road group. I know with Shimano you can use the MTB RD with their road shifters to use a lower-geared cassette, but afaik it is not possible currently with SRAM.
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you can't use the current 10spd shimano with mtn stuff cause its 10spd, you can only use the old stuff or tiagra, sram doesn't make any lower end road stuff so unless it is 10spd mtn which i doubt then it won't work
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you can't use the current 10spd shimano with mtn stuff cause its 10spd, you can only use the old stuff or tiagra, sram doesn't make any lower end road stuff so unless it is 10spd mtn which i doubt then it won't work
Um, that's the whole point of my question. This is 10sp mountain... so I wonder if they are making it so that the cable pull ratio for the RD is the same between this new group and their road groups.
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Originally Posted by born2bahick View Post
Me too, although 11-37 would be just enough to make me drop the granny ring.
Ya, I could run a 36 up front on the Blindside and actually have one underdrive gear.

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Um, that's the whole point of my question. This is 10sp mountain... so I wonder if they are making it so that the cable pull ratio for the RD is the same between this new group and their road groups.
10spd mtn was just random speculation i thought not anything sram actually announced
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Originally Posted by sirtigersalot View Post
10spd mtn was just random speculation i thought not anything sram actually announced
But the question remains, IF it is 10 speed, I wonder if it will be compatible with their road group. I'm not expecting anyone to know the answer, just throwing it out there.
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^^^See what happens when you let a roadie into an MTB forum.











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I guess that would be nice. I like a 1x9 setup on my cyclocross bike with a mountain rear derailleur for the versatility, but I'm guessing this will be far more expensive than anything I;d want to use on a cyclocross bike.

Or a mountain bike, for that matter.
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If it is a 2X10, I'll be very surprised. Aside from the tighter tolerances
Triples have tighter tolerances than doubles.
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Triples have tighter tolerances than doubles.
I think the tighter tolerances would be the 10 vs. 9 cogs in the rear. Same cassette width, add 1 more gear. (Unless they design a whole new hub with a wider cassette and even deeper dish.
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