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Old 11-13-08, 11:10 AM
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Specialized Hardrock; I WANT MORE TRAVEL! HELP!

Whats up guys i have a 2006 specialized hardrockand i want more travel in the fork. i get about 80mm of travel i want about 120mm! whats the easiest and CHEEPEST way to achieve this? what forks are out there that will bolt right onto my bike?

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Old 11-13-08, 11:28 AM
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Old 11-13-08, 01:49 PM
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That's an awfully expensive fork for a $500 bike. Do you think that the Hardrock frame is good enough to warrant that much of an upgrade? (I have an 08 Hardrock which I am considering upgrading the derailleurs on, so I'm curious about this as well)
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If you're gonna keep a bike and ride it the for is a good upgrade. What's wrong with the derailleurs on the '08?
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The Tora is the cheapest option that is worth spending money on.
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Acrea Front, Alivio rear. The Acera is impossible to keep adjusted and even when it's freshly adjusted it can only rarely upshift from the small chainring. It does that same thing upshifting from the middle chainring, and sometimes going over bumps it will drop from the middle to the small chainring. (also, pedaling backwards causes the chain to drop from the large chainring-maybe a crank issue?)
The Alivio rear isn't quite as bad, but it has a tendancy to doubleshift at unpredictable intervals.
I'm considering SLX front and rear to replace them.
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Old 11-13-08, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by T3hk1w1 View Post
Acrea Front, Alivio rear. The Acera is impossible to keep adjusted and even when it's freshly adjusted it can only rarely upshift from the small chainring. It does that same thing upshifting from the middle chainring, and sometimes going over bumps it will drop from the middle to the small chainring. (also, pedaling backwards causes the chain to drop from the large chainring-maybe a crank issue?)
The Alivio rear isn't quite as bad, but it has a tendancy to doubleshift at unpredictable intervals.
I'm considering SLX front and rear to replace them.
That is a setup (user) problem, not a derailleur problem. Get them adjusted correctly and they will work fine for you.
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Originally Posted by T3hk1w1 View Post
Acrea Front, Alivio rear. The Acera is impossible to keep adjusted and even when it's freshly adjusted it can only rarely upshift from the small chainring. It does that same thing upshifting from the middle chainring, and sometimes going over bumps it will drop from the middle to the small chainring. (also, pedaling backwards causes the chain to drop from the large chainring-maybe a crank issue?)
The Alivio rear isn't quite as bad, but it has a tendancy to doubleshift at unpredictable intervals.
I'm considering SLX front and rear to replace them.
Acera sucks balls. Rarely when I or my LBS adjusts it does it stay tuned for long. Im probably gonna sell my 07 Hardrock for an old or if possible disc rigid steel frame and salvage what I can from the Hardrock. The fork that came with mine is "100 mm" of travel but is so stiff its really more like 60 mm. Dont get a RST Gila T7.
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Old 11-13-08, 05:51 PM
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I highly doubt it's a setup problem, I had it done for me by my LBS, West Hill Shop in Putney VT. (www.westhillshop.com) I've poked around on the 'net a bit and it seems to be a pretty widespread opinion that Acera sucks and Alivio isn't much better. [/endthreadhijack]
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This summer I worked in a shop that sold lots of entry level hardtails. I have become intimately familiar with Acera shifters and derailleurs. They do indeed suck balls, most of the time.
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Originally Posted by T3hk1w1 View Post
That's an awfully expensive fork for a $500 bike. Do you think that the Hardrock frame is good enough to warrant that much of an upgrade? (I have an 08 Hardrock which I am considering upgrading the derailleurs on, so I'm curious about this as well)
I personally bought a fork that matched, and possibly exceeded I don't remember, the cost of my HR. But I plan on riding the frame until it breaks, which hopefully will be far into the future. So for me, it was worth the upgrade. If you know the HR will not stick around very long, then the expensive upgrade is probably not the route to take. But, if I would have bought a 1000-1100 dollar bike would I have gotten a Revelation Air on it? Probably not?
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Originally Posted by T3hk1w1 View Post
That's an awfully expensive fork for a $500 bike. Do you think that the Hardrock frame is good enough to warrant that much of an upgrade?
$275 is CHEAP for a decent fork. There's a reason the bike only costs $500. The OEM fork is one of them. The wheels and fork I upgraded almost exceed the cost of my bike new. I too plan to ride my frame into the ground. All the nice parts will come off and go to whatever new frame I end up with. A new fork is not married to the frame so I don't see why a little money can't be spent on a better fork.
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Originally Posted by YungBurke View Post
Acera sucks balls. Rarely when I or my LBS adjusts it does it stay tuned for long. Im probably gonna sell my 07 Hardrock for an old or if possible disc rigid steel frame and salvage what I can from the Hardrock. The fork that came with mine is "100 mm" of travel but is so stiff its really more like 60 mm. Dont get a RST Gila T7.
i found a solution to this problem! i got the same bike n shocks and if u unscrew the top of the shock (only one side) and take out the spring the shock will work great with only 1 spring in there! and it travels all 100mm!-if not more...
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u kno how both sides have a knob u can turn left or right to adjust the shock? under that knob theres another plastic piece u can unscrew(to the left) but u will need pliers to do this. after u unscrew that piece pull out the hoal spring and there are rubber pieces inside the spring make sure those come out too n replace the cap back on and tighten it! so ur only doin this 2 1 side of the fork! it works great 4 me with this set up!
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^horrible idea.
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^horrible idea.
Why?
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seems to me that doing that could horribly tweak the fork if not break it outright the first time it took a hard impact. A dual-shock fork is NOT designed for that kind of differential force.
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^horrible idea.
It'll work. I'm not sure how long but it'll work.
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seems to me that doing that could horribly tweak the fork if not break it outright the first time it took a hard impact. A dual-shock fork is NOT designed for that kind of differential force.
Both stanchions are still in place. And you do know that a lot of forks have the springs on one side and then the rebound/compression on another side right?
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Im not doing that... Im just getting an old Lightweight rigid i dont really need shocks for my singletracking
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i took it out twice for 30 minut sessions on some trails and seemed 2 hold up fine...
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i took it out twice for 30 minut sessions on some trails and seemed 2 hold up fine...
Oh, if you tested in for THAT long, let me go remove a spring from my fork's stanchions too.
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Originally Posted by yellowpasta2000 View Post
u kno how both sides have a knob u can turn left or right to adjust the shock? under that knob theres another plastic piece u can unscrew(to the left) but u will need pliers to do this. after u unscrew that piece pull out the hoal spring and there are rubber pieces inside the spring make sure those come out too n replace the cap back on and tighten it! so ur only doin this 2 1 side of the fork! it works great 4 me with this set up!
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Hey, I have a 2008 hardrock and just upgraded to a tora 302..and it kicks major ass! the lockout feature is great for uphills, and the adjustments make it an all around good fork..
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