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Old 11-22-08, 03:37 AM
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Santa Cruz bikes are overrated and overpriced. Look at the Intense 6.6 or the Chumba Evo.
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Old 11-22-08, 09:56 AM
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If I had my pick at an AM bike, I'd look long and hard at the Yeti 575. Not quite 6" (5.75, as the name implies), but I heard that despite having a decent amount of travel, it climbs like a billy goat and still descends very, very well. I've had really good luck with my AS-R, and Yeti's customer service is very good. And rumor has it, for '09, the 575 will come in the team turquoise and white color scheme (for some reason I thought that the only bikes allowed to use the turquoise/white or turquoise/yellow were the ones home-grown in Colorado, but obviously I made that up).
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Originally Posted by jcook1989 View Post
Santa Cruz bikes are overrated and overpriced. Look at the Intense 6.6 or the Chumba Evo.
Hahahaha....that's funny!
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Old 11-22-08, 11:50 AM
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions! We'll be discussing things in greater detail tonight over beer...
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Old 11-22-08, 12:31 PM
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On Intense's website under "specs" the Intense is listed as weighting 7.25lbs... WTF? Are they just talking about the weight of the frame?
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Old 11-22-08, 01:23 PM
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No...AM bikes are quite light these days
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Old 11-23-08, 01:27 PM
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I don't remember everything that was discussed last night [beer], but I think buddy is still leaning heavily toward the Knolly with a Lyrik. He likes the Knolly because the size L is pretty much a perfect fit, and they're really uncommon around here. The nice thing about bikes in this price range is that they're all pretty good. He could go with a Rune, SX Trail, Nomad, etc. and do pretty well on any trail he might be riding.
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Old 11-24-08, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jcook1989 View Post
Santa Cruz bikes are overrated and overpriced......
How so?
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Old 11-24-08, 06:21 AM
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What about cove bikes? or rock mountain?
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Originally Posted by Smallguy View Post
What about cove bikes? or rock mountain?
For some reason he ruled out Cove and Transition pretty early. Rocky Mountain was never considered.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
How so?

It's really funny that he said that and then suggested an Intense.
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It's really funny that he said that and then suggested an Intense.
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Originally Posted by jcook1989 View Post
Santa Cruz bikes are overrated
correct.

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and overpriced.
incorrect.

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Look at the Intense 6.6
fail.

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or the Chumba Evo.
whatever.
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Old 11-24-08, 06:57 PM
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Another to throw in the hopper, pinkrobe:

Yeti Seven
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Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
correct.



incorrect.



fail.



whatever.
Please explain why they are overated.
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Old 11-24-08, 08:02 PM
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It seemed to be a failed attempt to compliment the bike.
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Old 11-24-08, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
Please explain why they are overated.
As you know, a quick read of any bicycle review site will show plenty of reviewers overrating Santa Cruz bikes. Many don't even own one. He never said they were overrated by knowledgeable people.
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
Another to throw in the hopper, pinkrobe:

Yeti Seven
<pitches tent> Buddy can find his own bike. I call dibs.
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Old 11-25-08, 12:09 AM
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Based on what you've said, of the two leading bikes: Knolly.

At least, if it were my money on the line for the frame.
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Old 11-25-08, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkrobe View Post
Against my better judgement, I'm starting a thread.

My buddy is 6'4", 210 #, and currently rides a 2004 Superlight with XT and XTR. The frame/fork are beat, and he's moving towards more AM/FR riding, so he wants a replacement. He's not a shuttler [not that there's anything wrong with that], so the new bike has to climb well. Our trails are not buff - there is crap everywhere. He rides our local stuff, plus Fernie, Kicking Horse, Panorama and the occasional trip to Whistler. 6" front/rear travel should work. He is looking to improve his ability to do drops/jumps and built stunts [ladders, skinnies, etc.]. On his behalf, I'd like to explore some options for him, since he's mostly a roadie and doesn't know as much about the tech on the dirt side. He does want something somewhat unique, and is trying to stay away from the big brands [i.e. Trek, Spec., Giant, etc.].

He is currently looking at two frames in particular: Santa Cruz Nomad and Knolly Delerium. What else should he be looking at? Anything to avoid?
He's set on the Lyrik for a fork. Looking at the reviews, it's pretty solid. Would something like a Fox Van be a worthy alternative?
The brakes will probably be Hope Mono.
Wheels - Easton Havoc AM [I think he should go for a custom build]
What else, what else, what else...
Keep away from Mono's. Sorry stay away from Hope brakes. I've used Hope , Avids and Hayes and must say the Hopes are crap. And I'm British.

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My money would be on the Yeti Seven, gorgeous bike, in addition to yeti quality. My only problem with it is all those darn gears in the back.
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Old 11-25-08, 03:21 PM
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Keep away from Mono's. Sorry stay away from Hope brakes. I've used Hope , Avids and Hayes and must say the Hopes are crap. And I'm British.

Choccy...
LOL - he said he likes the way they are bled. I just looked at the how-to video on Hope's site, and it's just like bleeding brakes on a car. I don't like bleeding the brakes on my car. It also looks like it would be easy to get air into the system unless you have the top cap perfectly level. I actually prefer the Shimano and Avid bleed methods. Really, I think he likes Hopes because they're pretty, and he doesn't know anyone with a set.
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Shimano's is like brake bleeding for dummies, I didnt even bother to look at the instructions, and I got them fine on my first bleed.
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. . . I just looked at the how-to video on Hope's site, and it's just like bleeding brakes on a car. I don't like bleeding the brakes on my car . . . .
But . . . all that takes is a foot and a wrench; unless you want to get fancy with a vacuum pump.
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
But . . . all that takes is a foot and a wrench; unless you want to get fancy with a vacuum pump.
On a car:
1. Open bleed valve with wrench.
2. Press brake pedal.
3. Close bleed valve with wrench. Oh wait, I can't let off the brake pedal to walk to the back of the car or air will get sucked into the system. Crap. I can jam a water bottle in there. No, that's not big enough. Where's that 2x4 I had kicking around. Ah yes, leaning against the passenger door. Okay, open the door slowly... slowly... Stretch to pick up the 2x4 which is now resting in a pool of oil that was dropped earlier and not cleaned up. Okay, got it... don't drip the oil... ****. Sigh. Jam the 2x4 in there - it's too long. Maybe if it's at an angle. Okay, got it. Get out of car. Where's the ****ing wrench? It was right here a second ago. I SWEAR I put it right... oh, there it is. <sound of 2x4 slipping off of brake pedal due to oil>
4. Repeat steps 1 to 3.
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