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junkyard 11-23-08 06:47 AM

That is multi-surface sandpaper. You need single-surface sandpaper. Multi is too complex for the new rider. Single will be much better. You have said so, yourself.

M_S 11-23-08 10:56 AM

Oury. Cool colors reduce fatigue.

cryptid01 11-23-08 11:34 AM

For all you ODI lockon fans, the cross-trainer doesn't get much hype but it's worth checking out - it's got the grippy without the sticky.

PimpinD 11-23-08 11:37 AM

There is no excuse to not have ODI grips on your bike... they come in a variety of sizes and styles that would can switch back and forth from with only owning 1 paid ofr locks...

some of my favorites are:

lizard skin peaty grips

race face diabolous grips

and the ones on my bike right now:
odi rogue

lanfarm 11-23-08 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by junkyard (Post 7902743)
That is multi-surface sandpaper. You need single-surface sandpaper. Multi is too complex for the new rider. Single will be much better. You have said so, yourself.

:lol::rolleyes:

elf 232 11-23-08 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by junkyard (Post 7902743)
That is multi-surface sandpaper. You need single-surface sandpaper. Multi is too complex for the new rider. Single will be much better. You have said so, yourself.

I have seen wittier comments in owner's manuals.

elf 232 11-23-08 12:31 PM

So ESI racer's edge in white or the peaty's?

PimpinD 11-23-08 12:34 PM

elf - the peatys are super tacky, and slim profile. so if you are looking for a thing grip id go with the peatyy.....

but WHITE GETS DIRTY!

lizard skin peaty grips

elf 232 11-23-08 12:36 PM

I know but my bike is mostly white.

IDK about the peaty's, I already have something similar, and they have plenty of grip, but they have no padding and hand fatigue very quickly on downhills, do the peaty's have any padding?

PimpinD 11-23-08 01:52 PM

they have a decent amount of padding, i have the ruffians on my jumper bike and they have more padding that those, but less than say the odi rogues...

mtnbiker66 11-23-08 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7903757)
I have seen wittier comments in owner's manuals.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,snap!!!!! Burn!!!!!! Owwwwwwwwww yeah!

scrublover 11-23-08 04:23 PM

if you're relying on your grip padding to prevent hand fatigue while on downhills, you're doing it wrong.

try not death gripping your bars, moving your brake lever reach closer to the bars, and grabbing/using less/not riding your brakes.

jcook1989 11-23-08 04:26 PM

I have some brown ODIs. The didn't start out that color though.

PimpinD 11-23-08 05:56 PM

i live in fl, our downhills aren't that long haha

elf 232 11-24-08 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by scrublover (Post 7904586)
if you're relying on your grip padding to prevent hand fatigue while on downhills, you're doing it wrong.

try not death gripping your bars, moving your brake lever reach closer to the bars, and grabbing/using less/not riding your brakes.

I dont know what kind of downhills you ride but if I held my grips any looser than i currently do, i would definetly be at risk of having them taken out of my hands. I went on a 20 mile full of downhills and my new brakes arent even broken in yet. I find this advice sub-standard, you need a certain amount of padding in your grips for the shifting of your body forward.

mtnbiker66 11-24-08 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7911547)
I dont know what kind of downhills you ride but if I held my grips any looser than i currently do, i would definetly be at risk of having them taken out of my hands. I went on a 20 mile full of downhills and my new brakes arent even broken in yet. I find this advice sub-standard, you need a certain amount of padding in your grips for the shifting of your body forward.

That's the pot calling the kettle black! All the mindless **** you put up and you wanna call out Scub? Thats rich.

ed 11-24-08 08:21 PM

Gloves are on...
http://marriageconfessions.files.wor...-gloves_11.jpg





Elf, you're an idiot.

scrublover 11-24-08 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7911547)
I dont know what kind of downhills you ride but if I held my grips any looser than i currently do, i would definetly be at risk of having them taken out of my hands. I went on a 20 mile full of downhills and my new brakes arent even broken in yet. I find this advice sub-standard, you need a certain amount of padding in your grips for the shifting of your body forward.

You have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?

Those were just *general* suggestions about things that may help.

However, I stand by my statement: If you are relying on your grips to prevent hand fatigue when descending, you are doing something wrong. What thay might be, I have no idea.

elf 232 11-24-08 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 (Post 7911582)
That's the pot calling the kettle black! All the mindless **** you put up and you wanna call out Scub? Thats rich.

So, because I am 'supposedly' wrong 'allegedly' often, that makes scrublover's statement less absurd?

Nawp.

ed 11-24-08 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7912326)
So, because I am 'definitely' wrong 'assuredly' often, that makes my statements a complete waste!!

Jeah.

Fixed it for you elf.

You know sir, I don't feel that I'm picking on you because you keep asking for it. Not in an active "please sir, can I have another" sorta way...but more like a "the sky is under my feet and purple elephants exist" sorta way. You just have to be corrected so the people who come here for education versus entertainment won't be mislead.

You really are a *****, my good fellow.

mtnbiker66 11-24-08 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7912326)
So, because I am 'supposedly' wrong 'allegedly' often, that makes scrublover's statement less absurd?

Nawp.

It's got to be some kind of joke. No one could really be as clueless as you come across. There's nothing at all "absurd" about Scrubs post.

ed 11-24-08 08:59 PM

I personally think Scrub needs to get a clue too. I find myself much less fatigued after I've pinned-the-gnar while flexing everything I own versus rolling with the terrain in a loosy-goosy manner.

I don't know why I even stand up over the rough stuff. I should just close my eyes and let my suspension suck up the lay of the land.

mtnbiker66 11-24-08 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by chelboed (Post 7912392)
I don't know why I even stand up over the rough stuff. I should just close my eyes and let the force guide me then I could be like the elf.

Fixed:thumb:

ed 11-24-08 09:09 PM

Do not underestimate the power of the Dark Side.

elf 232 11-24-08 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 (Post 7912364)
It's got to be some kind of joke. No one could really be as clueless as you come across. There's nothing at all "absurd" about Scrubs post.

You didnt even bring a knife to this gun fight, no proof. I drew a diagram. :D


When sitting down while going down a hill all force is impacted on your palms (top diagram in yellow), making even the best padded grip innefective.

Though while standing most of the forces is put into downward force on the cranks or in tension on ones arms (represented in purple). Regardless of a standing positing, though a sudden impact (or constant vibration) on the front end of the bike will have all its force put onto ones hands. Therefore the need of a grip with -some- padding.


http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d.../bikepaint.jpg

scrublover 11-24-08 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7912610)
You didnt even bring a knife to this gun fight, no proof. I drew a diagram. :D


When sitting down while going down a hill all force is impacted on your palms (top diagram in yellow), making even the best padded grip innefective.

Though while standing most of the forces is put into downward force on the cranks or in tension on ones arms (represented in purple). Regardless of a standing positing, though a sudden impact (or constant vibration) on the front end of the bike will have all its force put onto ones hands. Therefore the need of a grip with -some- padding.


Your absurd diagram aside...No one is saying padded grips are bad. Yes, they can add some comfort. They do not make up for possible poor technique and bike setup.

However: If you are relying on your grips to prevent hand fatigue when descending, you are doing something wrong. Fork and setup, tire selection and pressure, body position, how you are gripping, braking technique, picking smoother lines, how you approach and land things - all are going to impact this far, far more than your choice of grip.

Maybe you just need to ride in a less namby pamby manner?

elf 232 11-24-08 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by scrublover (Post 7912661)
Your absurd diagram aside...No one is saying padded grips are bad. Yes, they can add some comfort. They do not make up for possible poor technique and bike setup.

However: If you are relying on your grips to prevent hand fatigue when descending, you are doing something wrong. Fork and setup, tire selection and pressure, body position, how you are gripping, braking technique, picking smoother lines, how you approach and land things - all are going to impact this far, far more than your choice of grip.

Maybe you just need to ride in a less namby pamby manner?

I have ridden on 5 different grips, oury's, Bontrager race lites, ESI's, ergons, and some type of C'dale grips, none of them have given me hand fatigue. First ride with these grips, i get bad hand fatigue, corelation perhaps?

scrublover 11-24-08 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7912891)
I have ridden on 5 different grips, oury's, Bontrager race lites, ESI's, ergons, and some type of C'dale grips, none of them have given me hand fatigue. First ride with these grips, i get bad hand fatigue, corelation perhaps?

maybe, maybe not. you're trying to argue something different.

my basic premise: expecting your grips to prevent hand fatigue means you're doing something wrong. and you said it yourself: first ride. doesn't exactly give a ton of data to instantly prove it was your grips. give it a few rides before deciding.

bottom line: i'm assuming you have or will swap back to some of your other grips. if you haven't or don't, then there isn't much point about you whining about it on here.

Dannihilator 11-24-08 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by scrublover (Post 7904586)
if you're relying on your grip padding to prevent hand fatigue while on downhills, you're doing it wrong.

Try not death gripping your bars, moving your brake lever reach closer to the bars, and grabbing/using less/not riding your brakes.

ftw

mtnbiker66 11-25-08 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by elf 232 (Post 7912610)
You didnt even bring a knife to this gun fight, no proof. I drew a diagram. :D


When sitting down while going down a hill all force is impacted on your palms (top diagram in yellow), making even the best padded grip innefective.

Though while standing most of the forces is put into downward force on the cranks or in tension on ones arms (represented in purple). Regardless of a standing positing, though a sudden impact (or constant vibration) on the front end of the bike will have all its force put onto ones hands. Therefore the need of a grip with -some- padding.


http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d.../bikepaint.jpg



Haahahahahahahahahahah classic!!!!!!! Your post get dumber each time.Knife to a gunfight? Louie L'amour would roll over in his grave.When attending a gunfight with an idiot no weapons are needed. The idiot will shoot himself in the foot. I can't wait to see what kind of nonsense you post next.
The fact that you even said anything about sitting down on a decent really lets the cat out of the bag. Thanks for the tips I'll try standing the next time I go out for a ride.:roflmao2:


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