It's got to be some kind of joke. No one could really be as clueless as you come across. There's nothing at all "absurd" about Scrubs post.

I personally think Scrub needs to get a clue too. I find myself much less fatigued after I've pinned-the-gnar while flexing everything I own versus rolling with the terrain in a loosy-goosy manner.

I don't know why I even stand up over the rough stuff. I should just close my eyes and let my suspension suck up the lay of the land.

Fixed:thumb:

Do not underestimate the power of the Dark Side.

You didnt even bring a knife to this gun fight, no proof. I drew a diagram. :D


When sitting down while going down a hill all force is impacted on your palms (top diagram in yellow), making even the best padded grip innefective.

Though while standing most of the forces is put into downward force on the cranks or in tension on ones arms (represented in purple). Regardless of a standing positing, though a sudden impact (or constant vibration) on the front end of the bike will have all its force put onto ones hands. Therefore the need of a grip with -some- padding.


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Your absurd diagram aside...No one is saying padded grips are bad. Yes, they can add some comfort. They do not make up for possible poor technique and bike setup.

However: If you are relying on your grips to prevent hand fatigue when descending, you are doing something wrong. Fork and setup, tire selection and pressure, body position, how you are gripping, braking technique, picking smoother lines, how you approach and land things - all are going to impact this far, far more than your choice of grip.

Maybe you just need to ride in a less namby pamby manner?

I have ridden on 5 different grips, oury's, Bontrager race lites, ESI's, ergons, and some type of C'dale grips, none of them have given me hand fatigue. First ride with these grips, i get bad hand fatigue, corelation perhaps?

maybe, maybe not. you're trying to argue something different.

my basic premise: expecting your grips to prevent hand fatigue means you're doing something wrong. and you said it yourself: first ride. doesn't exactly give a ton of data to instantly prove it was your grips. give it a few rides before deciding.

bottom line: i'm assuming you have or will swap back to some of your other grips. if you haven't or don't, then there isn't much point about you whining about it on here.

ftw

Haahahahahahahahahahah classic!!!!!!! Your post get dumber each time.Knife to a gunfight? Louie L'amour would roll over in his grave.When attending a gunfight with an idiot no weapons are needed. The idiot will shoot himself in the foot. I can't wait to see what kind of nonsense you post next.
The fact that you even said anything about sitting down on a decent really lets the cat out of the bag. Thanks for the tips I'll try standing the next time I go out for a ride.:roflmao2:

66, I was not designing a scientific graph, I got bored so i drew up a relatively pointless diagram.

My point was that hand fatigue due pressure between palms and handlebar is not isolated to sitting down on decents. Sudden bumps and constant vibration in the trail are what cause hand fatigue, regardless of whether one is sitting or standing.

Why dont you take a joke on the knife to a gunfight comment? You seemed quite defensive. :D

Your argument is summed up by, "it very well could be something else much more important than the obvious solution".

Excessive pressure on your palms cuts circulation to your hands, assuming that I am already off my saddle when going downhill, the blatant solution is to improve my hands position on the bar by giving them more support. You are using ODI Rogues/ruffians, both well padded compared to these bontragers. Where do you find that you have any knowledge on the situation?

Defensive? I thought I was just stating the obvious

I just got in from a nice ride and I tried that standing up thing.........:thumb:

Oh, so now you're sour because you were wrong? All i have to say is, "I told you so".

I'm glad you clarified that. I was beginning to think elf was a username for Bill Nye or the Ames Research Center or something.

:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2:

You are toooooo much fun!

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You seem to be full of hot air but quite deficient of informative answers.

Please enlighten me.

That was not a serious answer for the record.

No.

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blather, blather, blather. palm pressure isn't the worry for cutting hand circulation.

rogues, and particularly ruffian grips are not that padded.

again, you are missing out on what i'm trying to say. read carefully:

depending on your grips to prevent hand fatigue while descending means you're doing something wrong otherwise. grips are a very, very small part of the overall equation.

Stop wasting your time Scrub.

YOU zoom--zoom--zoom BRICK WALL

It's my masochistic wildside showing.