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Old 11-24-08, 03:51 PM
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"""newbie""" help me :d

Hi there to all this is Lucas - Cyprus if you have 2 min please read; I would like more opinions on this simple because it's my first bike and i think it's harder to choose than a car!!!


So after 1 month of search and listening to a lot of mouths:

Im a STARTER """BUT""" = I plan 3-4 days * 1-2 hours exercise (road and dirt) weekly + 2 hours monthly mountain recreation, with the objective getting deeper by the time.

a) How much important are Shimano acera vs alivio vs deore for ""a STARTER LIKE"" me
b) I'm getting my self full aluminium not steel but is there really so much difference between TREK aluminium and GT's aluminium regarding the price?
c) What about the stopers? hydraulics vs mechanics vs simple V's.

I have driven TREK,GT,GHOST,GIANT,KELLYS,CORRATEC,MONGOOSE,IDEAL,BIANCHI,GARY FISHER, CANNONDALE and the result I noticed was : The softer the better, the same weight couldn't tell what is what, acera vs alivio had too much difference, alivio vs deore not so much. Stopers got me really confused but hydraulics could be noticed . 2 Opinions that made me thinkin were : 1) You dont have to spent too much because your starter , cant tell the difference , they want to sell you more, you dont need it. 2) You better buy a better quality for investing your money best, getting better stoppers can make difference and so is shimano deore than alivio. (What do you agree with?)

My budget is around $600-$800 without extras so there are my final choices based on test drives and budget :

1) http://www.ghost-bikes.com/2009/typ.php?bid=60046 - GHOST BIKE FOR $750
2) http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bike..._series/6000e/ - TREK BIKE FOR $750
3) http://www.dirtworld.com/productrevi...7684&rn=1&rt=3 - GT BIKE FOR $580

SO.... 1 - 2 or 3?

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Old 11-24-08, 03:56 PM
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Old 11-24-08, 06:40 PM
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Ahhh your too full of questions, just go ride a bike at a shop and choose the one you like best!

Edit: Your list of questions is a bit overwhelming for 1 thread, you ought to go talk to someone in person who is knowledgable about bikes at your local shop.

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Originally Posted by elf 232 View Post
Ahhh your too full of questions, just go ride a bike at a shop and choose the one you like best!

Edit: Your list of questions is a bit overwhelming for 1 thread, you ought to go talk to someone in person who is knowledgable about bikes at your local shop.
Yeah. So in other words, don't ask this guy elf ^^^

Elf are you trying to scare away the newbies? Let him learn a bit from the link and then he can ask more that aren't answered there. At least he will be able to go in a little bit armed before he walks into an LBS.

Welcome to Bike Forum, Lucas. I hope the link helps you.
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Two things I would recommend: 1) read the FAQ that Chelboed linked for you above; lots of good info there. 2) Don't buy more bike than you need. You don't have to buy a bike that is full XTR group to start with. Buy the frame that suits your needs. As those components begin to wear out you can replace them with the group components that you want.

Good luck and have fun,
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Ghost link for those of us who a German-challenged:

http://www.ghost-bikes.com/2009/typ.php?bid=60046

The actual GT site for the Avalanche 2.0 Disc:

http://www.gtbicycles.com/usa/eng/Pr...rchived=t#5597

I would say, of the three that the Ghost, followed by the Trek, are spec'd just a touch better; BUT, like the wise ones here have said, talk over your questions with your local shop people. The "salesspeak" may all sound the same; but, if nothing else, sifting past that will give you a feel for how you will be treated by them as a customer after the sale. The test-ruide them again and choose the one that you liked the 'feel' of better.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
Yeah. So in other words, don't ask this guy elf ^^^

Elf are you trying to scare away the newbies? Let him learn a bit from the link and then he can ask more that aren't answered there. At least he will be able to go in a little bit armed before he walks into an LBS.

Welcome to Bike Forum, Lucas. I hope the link helps you.
Im not trying to scare him away, but finding useful information in a forum is like a needle...

He should get personal knowledge from an individual, preferably even talk the manager of the shop and go on a ride with him.
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Originally Posted by mcoomer View Post
Two things I would recommend: 1) read the FAQ that Chelboed linked for you above; lots of good info there. 2) Don't buy more bike than you need. You don't have to buy a bike that is full XTR group to start with. Buy the frame that suits your needs. As those components begin to wear out you can replace them with the group components that you want.

Good luck and have fun,
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Point must be made though. Dont think that Alivio and XT are the exact same thing with a price markup, there is a reason for many (not all) price differences in bike quality levels.

LX, XT, X-5/7/9, might be ideal choices for component levels, but test riding is key.
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
Ghost link for those of us who a German-challenged:

http://www.ghost-bikes.com/2009/typ.php?bid=60046
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Es ist im deutsch fur mich (My german teacher would be pissed, I dont think any of that is correct, but it gets the point across)
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Originally Posted by elf 232 View Post
Im not trying to scare him away, but finding useful information in a forum is like a needle...

He should get personal knowledge from an individual, preferably even talk the manager of the shop and go on a ride with him.
Based on many of your posts, it seems the personal knowledge you have obtained was inaccurate at best.
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Originally Posted by elf 232 View Post
Im not trying to scare him away, but finding useful information in a forum is like a needle...

He should get personal knowledge from an individual, preferably even talk the manager of the shop and go on a ride with him.

Elf, there is a LOT of useful information here - that is why people come here in the first place. It's when people who have misguided beliefs or give flat out WRONG information to others is the point where things (good/bad) get mixed up.

So if it seems like good info is like finding a needle, perhaps you are right. If people who don't know what they are talking about quit giving false information then it would be easier, right?
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