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Old 03-09-09, 08:20 PM
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Did I get ripped off? Need the pro's opinions...

Hey guys, first off I'm new here and new to riding bikes. I've ridden bikes, but recently I've taken a real interest into riding them for fun, going on hills, up hills, jumping, etc... Anyways, my Walmart special bike was not cutting it, the pedals broke off while I was riding it, flat tires and the bike seat was so uncomfortable it gave me rashes.

I bought a Specialized rock hopper from someone for $230, the bike has all kinds of scratches and is in poor condition, I need to replace the tires, and a weird shift system. The guy said it's a "fire switch" or something. Anyways, there's two switches just to switch the gears and I could not figure it out. I liked the old regular old shift on the Walmart bike, but anyways. Is $230 for a old and used Rock hopper o.k.?

Just asking the pro's. Like I said, I don't even know anything about bikes and everything else. I will post pictures later on to let you guys take a look. I just want to see if I got a deal, or got scammed because of my ignorance.

Look forward to learning all kinds of new things about bikes. Thanks guys.
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Old 03-09-09, 08:23 PM
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It's kinda late to ask now.
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Old 03-09-09, 08:25 PM
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A Specialized Fire Switch?

I will pay you $275 for it. Delivered.
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Old 03-09-09, 08:28 PM
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Old 03-09-09, 08:28 PM
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Yeah I know, but I was desperate to buy something better than I had. Something that at least had pedals. I went to the guys house and he said the bike I was looking at (Diamondback) was gone by mistake and that the only bike he had was the Specialized. So he talked me into it, and honestly like I said I really do not know anything about bikes. I know how to change a flat and that's it.

I am going to post a picture. If anything at least I learned my lesson and next time I'll buy it brand new from a dealer. I figured for my first bike though that I should buy something "top of the line," even though it is in poor condition.

Have you guys heard of old Rock Hoppers going for $230? What about the gear shift, does that familiar to anyone? I'll take a picture of that too. It's weird. A thumb shift and a trigger - never heard, or seen it in my life and it makes riding the bike even more troublesome. I might have to have it changed out.
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Old 03-09-09, 08:36 PM
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The guy said it's a "fire switch" or something. Anyways, there's two switches just to switch the gears and I could not figure it out.
That's EZ Fire, and it should be very easy to use. One "switch" shifts up, and the other shifts down. Click once to change by one gear.
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Old 03-09-09, 08:46 PM
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If I answer does that make me a "pro"? I've always wanted to be a "pro". I think it's hard to get ripped off when you only paid $230 for a hardrock. I think you did fine, even if it needs a few bits it's still a great frame worthy of upgrades.

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Old 03-09-09, 08:54 PM
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Unless it's beat to all hell and/or is covered in rust. Sorry, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it sounds like you fell for a bait and switch.
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Old 03-09-09, 09:01 PM
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I figured for my first bike though that I should buy something "top of the line," even though it is in poor condition.
"Rockhopper" covers a range of models (about a 2:1 range of prices). Although they're good bikes, I wouldn't call any of them "top of the line". Which model did you get? The 2009 line-up is...

Rockhopper Pro $1350
Rockhopper Expert Disc $1100
Rockhopper Expert Disc 29 $1300
Rockhopper Comp Disc $770
Rockhopper Comp Disc 29 $940
Rockhopper $640

For comparison, the line-up for 2007 was...

Rockhopper Pro Disc $1100
Rockhopper Comp Disc $880
Rockhopper Comp Disc Women's $880
Rockhopper Disc $660
Rockhopper Women's $520
Rockhopper $520

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Old 03-09-09, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by deraltekluge View Post
That's EZ Fire, and it should be very easy to use. One "switch" shifts up, and the other shifts down. Click once to change by one gear.
O.k. thanks. EZ Fire, o.k. So I'm guessing that I would just use the thumb shifters for on the road and then while going up a hill, I could just EZ Fire it and pull the trigger. O.k. I think I have the concept down, hopefully.

LOL Victim, I said that because honestly I do not know anything about bikes, I never knew there was so much to bikes. The most I have ever payed for a bike was $50 and that was for a used Walmart brand Roadmaster Fury with a red frame that got me around school.

O.k. I got the pictures here and will upload them in a minute.

Oh, another issue. Right now I have the front tire off. I took it off and those little switches that just switch and the tire comes off, wow... what a Godsend! Anyways, the front tire was flat and I had to cut off the tire itself with a hacksaw (couldn't get it off, even with the flat tire tool). The guy had an almost BALD street tire on there with no tread whatsoever. It was also a very skinny tire in the front. I am going to put my Walmart tire on there because it's better than that skinny one for now. He said something about a "European" tube or something?

Anyways, I took off the tire and saw the tube, when I tried to put my Walmart tube into the Specialized RIM, the tube valve would not fit! It was too small! The tube that was in the rim before was a "European" valve, he showed it to me, but I still didn't understand. This thing looked like something out of Aliens. A "valve" within a valve so to speak. It was a small valve. I don't know weird stuff anyways, so I guess I have to get a special tube with a smaller valve I guess. For now I"m using my Walmart rim and tire and tube. Case closed.

O.k. going to get these pictures uploaded. Sorry guys, just clueless about bikes that's all. I didn't realize how much I did not know. I thought a bike was a bike.
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Old 03-09-09, 09:08 PM
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Unless it's beat to all hell and/or is covered in rust. Sorry, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but it sounds like you fell for a bait and switch.

Exactly, I was desperate to buy a bike today and did it, just to get a bike. I really wish I would have had someone with me that knows bikes. He started rambling off terms that went in one ear and out the other.

Going to upload pics here right now.

Hey guys, thanks for the input and response, honestly I know nobody in my real life that knows ANYTHING about bikes. Thanks.
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Old 03-09-09, 09:21 PM
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I've been working in bike shops for about 5 years and I've met a lot of people in your situation. The difference between you and them is that you're admitting that you're not familiar enough with your bike. What I would recommend is that you call around and find out which one of your local shops do a basic maintenance class. (ours is on Monday nights) They'll get a lot of your questions answered. The best way to lose any sympathy (and service) is to try to BS your way through a situation, and you don't appear to be doing that.

BTW, the skinny valve you are referring to is a "presta" valve. They're just as common as the wider, "schraeder" valve and gaining in popularity. In my opinion, they're better...the valve doesn't retreat into the tire when you're putting the pump head on, assuming you're using the locknut that comes with the tube.

As for your flat tire removal technique....in the thousands of flats we repair in a year, we have NEVER felt the need to consider a hack saw. Some are tough to put on, but we've never come across one that's tough to remove.

Best of luck. Have fun learning and don't get discouraged.
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http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...20FS&Type=bike

Nice bike, assuming it's in serviceable condition.

I would not put 24" wheels on there. The frame isn't meant for 24" wheels, so the ride will feel weird. And it has rim brakes.
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Old 03-09-09, 10:36 PM
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that's definitely not a bad bike for the money, however it sounds like it is too big for you, and if that's the case you might consider swapping it out. butted means they shaved off some of the aluminum inside the tube so that it is thinner in areas that are less stress bearing, this makes it lighter. swapping out for 24 inch wheels won't work, none of your components will be compatible. the presta valves hold air better than the scraeder valves, you can get a piece that will screw on that will make it compatible with a schraeder pump as well. Also tires are difficult to get on and off, but a hacksaw is absolutely never necessary.
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66 View Post
It's kinda late to ask now.
Why do people always do that?
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Old 03-10-09, 06:08 AM
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Why do people always do that?
Why do people buy stuff then ask questions about it? Mysteries of life...
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Originally Posted by Captain Jake View Post
butted means they shaved off some of the aluminum inside the tube so that it is thinner in areas that are less stress bearing...

Is that really how butted tubing is made?

http://www.reynoldstechnology.biz/bu...bemadeWEB.html
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You got a presta valve. All you need is a presta tube..

Hacksaw..... how you didn't go into your rim at all..
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Originally Posted by paul emick View Post
Is that really how butted tubing is made?

http://www.reynoldstechnology.biz/bu...bemadeWEB.html
meh at any rate the idea is the same, thinner in the middle to save weight.
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I also think you did ok on the bike...Just take it to you local bike shop and get them to tune it up for you. Will probally cost $25-50 depending on how much it needs. They will be happy to show you how to use the bike...build a relationship with them and go back to them when your ready to upgrade.

You'll be good to go in no time...

A Specialized Rockhopper is IMHO, the best entry level bike for the money that you can get.
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