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Old 04-12-09, 09:00 PM
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overkill on first bike purchase?

I'm pretty new to mountain biking but quickly getting addicted and am looking to buy my first bike. 2 of my 3 roommates ride and the only bike I've hit the trails with is my roommate's 07 stumpjumper fsr comp. I know as a newb I probably don't need anything that nice or with full susp, but I really like the way it rides and my LBS has an 08 model left on the shelf that I'm contemplating pulling the trigger on (even though it's more than i should spend). I'll mostly be riding xc type trails, some easy and some more technical (but nothing with big jumps) with people that have several years or more experience. The salesman thinks I'd be fine stepping down to the fsr xc comp to save some money. Is it worth the extra expense for the stumpjumper? Or should i try and find a deal on a used one via craigslist, ebay, etc.
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Old 04-12-09, 09:06 PM
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If you already know that you are going to stay with the sport then getting it now will save you having to buy again soon after. If you are not sure then you might be wasting your money because it won't come back to you when you sell it.
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Start with a Hardtail. Cheaper in the first place- better than a "Cheap" full suspension bike and is a quicker learning curve on MTB Skills. Plenty about but if you like Specialised- the Hardrock is a good starter bike. Let your wallet tell you the quality to buy.
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Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
Start with a Hardtail. Cheaper in the first place- better than a "Cheap" full suspension bike and is a quicker learning curve on MTB Skills......
Why???? If he can swing the cost of a really nice bike then go for it.
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Old 04-13-09, 05:21 AM
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If you like the Stumpy and can afford it, there's no reason not to buy it. Don't feel you have to buy a lesser bike because you're a beginner. Do that, and you'll just end up wishing you had the Stumpjumper every time you go out.

Test ride an FSR XC before taking that sales person's advice about stepping down. The geometry is slightly different on those.
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Old 04-13-09, 05:22 AM
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If you are on fairly smooth trails, then a hardtail will do the job. You will get the most bike for the money that way.
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Old 04-13-09, 06:24 AM
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Demo the FSR XC to compare if you can. If you like it as much as the Stumpy, there's your answer. If not, see if you can swing the Stumpy. If you don't, you'll wish you had the Stumpy every time you get out on the trail, and you'll eventually end up buying it anyway.
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Originally Posted by BearSquirrel View Post
If you are on fairly smooth trails, then a hardtail will do the job. You will get the most bike for the money that way.
FS bikes go on smooth trails, too. Just in case you didn't know that.

Having the FS will leave room for going on non-smooth trails. What a thought!
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Old 04-13-09, 08:07 AM
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Hmm, Well, If your sure that full suspension is what you "know" you'll want and can afford it, buy it. I ride hardtails because I like the feel of a rigid rear end. I feel that I have more control of the bike.

One of my riding buddies has pretty much given me his trek liquid, it's a sweet ride, but sits in my garage most of the time.

Generally the Dually will be a little more heavy, and have more maintenance.

***It's realy boils down to what you like. Just try and ride both, don't buy in a hurry, or being pressured.

**** I would get the best bike I could afford from the get go. If you like the sport, you'll wish you had splurged on the high-end bike. If you decide later on riding is not for you, we'll thats part of life. Atleast you gave it your best, and you'll have a nice bike to putt-arround on.

Buying a low-end bike will cost you more in the end, because you'll want to up-grade later.

Hardtail vs. dual suspension is what I would be most concerned with.

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Old 04-13-09, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
Start with a Hardtail. Cheaper in the first place- better than a "Cheap" full suspension bike and is a quicker learning curve on MTB Skills. Plenty about but if you like Specialised- the Hardrock is a good starter bike. Let your wallet tell you the quality to buy.
I'm sorry stapfam, but you really should stick to your UK bike paths and quit trying to dispense mountain bike "advice."

To the OP: Sounds like you've got a solid line on a very good bike; if you like the full suspension and can swing it, the FSR XC is a fine choice. Only you can answer whether or not it's worth it to go the extra for the Stumpy; but JG makes an excellent case above. Just don't buy into the nonsense that one should start out on a hardtail and "graduate" to FS - -that's utter BS that I'm bound and determined to kill dead-dead-dead on this forum.
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Old 04-13-09, 10:17 AM
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IMO, the higher-end you go the better off. I had some lower end bikes when I started out (in the mid 80's) but didn't get truly hooked until I got a great deal on a higher-end bike. The components are lighter and, generally, more durable. The ride is engineered to be better. I agree that you should not rush into a purchase, and the more time you spend riding demos the better you will feel when you make your decision. You will be psyched if you have a bike you love when you decide to make your first pilgrimage to any of the singletrack holy lands.
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Old 04-13-09, 11:01 AM
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Definatly spend as much as you feel comfortable doing. I've only had my bike 3 months and am already having a casual look at ebay and thinking I should have splashed out more to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Zephyr11 View Post
Demo the FSR XC to compare if you can. If you like it as much as the Stumpy, there's your answer. If not, see if you can swing the Stumpy. If you don't, you'll wish you had the Stumpy every time you get out on the trail, and you'll eventually end up buying it anyway.
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fwiw, i've never met anyone who regrets "overspending" on their first bike. You'd be fine with a hardrock or similar, but if you can swing the stumpy and you like dual suspension, go for it. it's more expensive to keep upgrading, in the long run.

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IMHO, go with the Stumpy if your wallet can allow. You'll ride a much better bike with better components. I picked up a closeout '08 Stumpy FSR comp for cheap two months ago and haven't looked back. Unfortunately, the upgrade-itis bug hit me quick and I've changed some bits but that's part of the fun. At least for me...
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I bought a hardrock last spring to get into the sport. Now I want a stumpy. I'm happy with the hardrock, but I really want to upgrade. If you can get the 08 cheap and can swing it, do it.
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
I'm sorry stapfam, but you really should stick to your UK bike paths and quit trying to dispense mountain bike "advice."

To the OP: Sounds like you've got a solid line on a very good bike; if you like the full suspension and can swing it, the FSR XC is a fine choice. Only you can answer whether or not it's worth it to go the extra for the Stumpy; but JG makes an excellent case above. Just don't buy into the nonsense that one should start out on a hardtail and "graduate" to FS - -that's utter BS that I'm bound and determined to kill dead-dead-dead on this forum.
Totally agree with you, apart from I am having to fight back the urge to start posting pics of downhill runs around the UK saying "what, bike paths like these?".
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You know your finances best. If by "overspending" you mean credit card debt, I would go with what I could pay cash for. Just my two cents. If you have the cash, then do it.
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Originally Posted by surreal View Post
... if you can swing the stumpy and you like dual suspension, go for it. it's more expensive to keep upgrading, in the long run.

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Get the bike that inspires confidence and passion within, and keep it within your means. Seems like you already know what you like, and that 08 Stumpy seems well within reach from what you described.

It's just you, your bike and the trail... leave other people's expectations at the head of the trail... ride free!

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I really really want the stumpy but my budget still says no. I talked myself out of going back to my LBS today to buy it. In the meantime while I figure out what I'm going to do I've been searching craigslist and ebay for used ones (primarily 05-08) to see if there are any decent buys on a used one out there.
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Maybe the Specialized rebate offer on all FSR models running from 15 April through 26 April will help push you over the edge. Check out...

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...ame=SJFSRPromo

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That should do it.
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I halfway pulled the trigger today. I got to my LBS 10 minutes before closing and I put that last 08 Stumpy on layaway. Even thouhg I likely won't be riding it till June I'm still stoked just thinking about it!
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
I'm sorry stapfam, but you really should stick to your UK bike paths and quit trying to dispense mountain bike "advice."


Just don't buy into the nonsense that one should start out on a hardtail and "graduate" to FS - -that's utter BS that I'm bound and determined to kill dead-dead-dead on this forum.

Mountain bike advice- Thats what the forum is about. And I am not a newbie to mountain biking- But have to admit that I am old school.

And if you want to try our UK bike paths- try the coast to coast Pennine Way - or the easy one- South Downs way in one day. That is where you need bike skills to get through. Bike skills learnt from 16 years of riding hardtails that do what I want them to. AND- the fast boys on the SDW still do it on hardtails- around 8 hours for the 100 miles and 10,000ft of climbing.
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