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Old 05-25-09, 08:46 AM
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Sold A Damaged Frame, Grr.

So my KHS frame was out of alignment, so I decided to pick up a replacement frame. I'm a huge fan of the used market; I built up most of my road bike with used parts, so I've got a good handle on things. But this time, it didn't work out so well. A guy offered to sell me his 2002 Rockhopper frame for $100 shipped on a local message board. Which was a bit high for an older frame, but sure beats anything new you can buy today for that kind of money.

He sends me the following pictures (notice the aftermarket Avid stickers)


Once I got the frame, I opened it up, it looked great. When I started cleaning it, I removed all of the stickers, and took it in for a wash. The seat tube felt a bit weird, that's when I noticed the paint in that area was rubbing off a bit, and that's when I went like this .

Here's what I saw.



A good sized dent, covered with paint, and a sticker! Hooray, the frame is garbage. I'm talking to the guy through email, apparently he never knew that the frame was damaged. I did pay him through PayPal, though this was a transaction outside of eBay (local forum), so I'm thinking I may be able to get my money back using this route.
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Old 05-25-09, 10:02 AM
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So, the dent (in the second pic) puts the frame into the garbage category? Doesn't look that bad, but perhaps I'm missing something knowledge-wise.
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Old 05-25-09, 10:34 AM
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So, the dent (in the second pic) puts the frame into the garbage category? Doesn't look that bad, but perhaps I'm missing something knowledge-wise.
I'm 220lbs, not something I would risk :-D . But technically speaking, it's not garbage. Some manufacturers purposefully add a dent into the seat tube for derailleur clearance. (see: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/MrGTR/DENT.jpg ). I've talked with the guy some more, and he's agreed to compensate $40 back. I may build a rigid with the dented frame, just as a townie, or sell it on eBay.
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That's pretty minor...I wouldn't worry about it.
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That's pretty minor...I wouldn't worry about it.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 05-25-09, 10:45 PM
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$100 bucks - small dent - I think you did ok.
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Old 05-26-09, 08:19 AM
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i think spending any amount of money for a 7 year old aluminum frame is risky, especially with new beercan frames being available so cheap.

The dent in the seat-tube would make me nervous. But the, i'm fat and paranoid. Still, i'll bet specialized would tell you not to ride it...

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I bought the Crapper with a known 2" dent on the side of the down tube. Doesn't stop me from pissing the beat out of it.
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Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
Doesn't stop me from pissing the beat out of it.
WOW check this guy out!
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I just looked at it again...mine's only about an inch or so. Not 2.
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No Big Deal.
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