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unrelated 06-27-04 09:12 PM

Does anybody still mt bike with no suspension bikes?
 
I borrowed my boss's bike, an old Schwinn, aluminium frame with STX components but no suspension or front shock. So today I took it to a trail along a lake with ups and downs and the bike really impressed me! Of course it will be great if I had front suspension cus while I was decending a really rocky slope, the vibration was unimaginable, but to my surprise the chain stayed unlike many others that I have riden.

I just got to be more bold to over come those bigger logs.

unrelated 06-27-04 09:13 PM

Arhh.... wasn't paying attention while typing the topic... should be "anyone".

eastbaybob 06-27-04 09:34 PM

I asked the same question a while back in this forum. I also visited and called a bunch of bike shops in my area asking the question and the answer was no.

So I bought a frame and rigid fork from Soma ( www.somafab.com ) and had it outfitted with XT components and now I have a pretty nice ride, and the best looking bike around.

redfooj 06-27-04 11:49 PM

i dont, though i WOULD..

in fact, if it were very feasible mechanically and financially, i would turn my bike into a single-speed rigid bike

my friend has an old rigid specialized, and he rides and keeps up with me on the local trails easily. this is no fireroads either... its a very very rocky and hilly trail with TONS of babyhead rocks

get a nice rigid with good tire clearance..stick some fatties in the front and run the pressure low..thats all the suspension you need

WAR85 06-28-04 03:55 AM

http://www.bianchiusa.com/sass.html

a2psyklnut 06-28-04 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by unrelated
Arhh.... wasn't paying attention while typing the topic... should be "anyone".

Fixed it for you!

L8R

roadfix 06-28-04 10:16 AM

I don't need all those bells and whistles to enjoy Mtb'ing.....

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=kona

unrelated 06-28-04 11:05 AM

I've never seen any handle bar like it before... Can't imagine how it will feel like.

spinbackle 06-28-04 04:26 PM

I still ride a "rigid" (it was just called a mountain bike when I bought it). 1987 Stumpjumper Comp. Can keep up with the suspension crowd too.

jeff williams 06-28-04 05:42 PM

Ya..wanna make something of it?

Hehe, I was advised NOT to run suspension on my bike, absolute WASTE of the steel frame\ fork engineering. Ummm, we're talking lbs telling me no, don't get the work done.
Scary, never before had somebody turn down work. I told him the price I paid for the bike, he pointed out that this brand fork new, was worth as much as I paid for the entire bike $150.

Man, I'm SOOOOOOOO glad I listened. They were right.

Unrelated- You have to try $1000 steel frameworks. You thought Alu Schwinn was nice?

You'ld LOVE an HQ steel mtb. Mine, throw a rider on his @$$ it's so responsive. :D
YeeHAA!

Nice bike Fixer.

forum*rider 06-28-04 06:39 PM

I occasionally ride an old haro rigid. It's fun, much lighter and more responsive than my dualie cdale.

khuon 06-28-04 06:49 PM

I miss my old rigid (and yeah... it was simply a MTB when I bought it too). Steel frame with nice steel fork... tracked like it was on rails. My worst cycling mistake ever was to have gotten rid of it. Actually, I gave it to my brother thinking he could use a bike. He left it out on his front porch unlocked where it got stolen. I am still bitter about this and it's been nearly five years. I'll probably build up another rigid one of these days. I'm lusting over the Pace frames with a Pace CF rigid fork however I also have a soft spot for the old-school MTBs. I still keep an eye out for a good deal on a 1993 Bridgestone MB-1 with the really cool Ritchey-designed fork.

sm266 06-28-04 07:01 PM

I wanna build up a rigid singlespeed for some xc racing. The whole build process for a light bike is expensive, though. Checked out the Kona model, but they've sold out of 16" rides.

tFUnK 06-29-04 02:15 AM

i'm all for the retro thing.

jeff williams 06-29-04 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by tFUnK
i'm all for the retro thing.

Not retro, accurate. Old bikes are total scores compared to lots new. HQ is HQ in steelwork\ human ergo\ physics. A real fork is serious money.

mrfix 06-29-04 04:37 AM

I still ride an early 90's iron horse MT-400 with an 80mm over fat city big 1" straight blade fork. I wouldn't have it any other way.

midwestmntnbkr 06-29-04 04:57 AM

I have an older Marin Eldridge Grade that I built in to a SS that is rigid. I ride it all the time. I enjoy it more than my suspension bikes actually.

It is hard to bomb down the hills and ruts with a rigid though.

shaharidan 06-29-04 05:02 AM

isnt Bruce Gordons Bruce Gordon Rock N' Road Tour-Ex
http://www.bgcycles.com/rnr.html
considered a rigid mountain bike, but with all the braze ons needed for touring?

khuon 06-29-04 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by midwestmntnbkr
It is hard to bomb down the hills and ruts with a rigid though.

And that's a good thing, IMHO. It forces the rider to pick cleaner lines. I ride full-suspension now but I'm thinking that my rigid experience over the years still makes me want to pick the cleanest lines so I'm probably not taking full advantage of suspension.

jcivic00 06-29-04 04:25 PM

I'm going back to riding rigid. I never really got into the whole FS thing. IMO people rely more on the suspension rather than thir own skills. I can't wait to see the look on people's faces at the next race season when they just got beat by a complete rigid. HEHE

khuon 06-29-04 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by jcivic00
I'm going back to riding rigid. I never really got into the whole FS thing. IMO people rely more on the suspension rather than thir own skills. I can't wait to see the look on people's faces at the next race season when they just got beat by a complete rigid. HEHE

My mechanic rode singlespeed rigids in XC races. He said that he could burn most of the pack going up the hills but they would usually catch him coming down because he had to navigate cleaner lines while they just bombed on down. He always seemed to end up in a respectable middle of the pack finish however.

Maelstrom 06-29-04 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by khuon
And that's a good thing, IMHO. It forces the rider to pick cleaner lines. I ride full-suspension now but I'm thinking that my rigid experience over the years still makes me want to pick the cleanest lines so I'm probably not taking full advantage of suspension.

You just have to redefine clean lines. Clean for a ht is 100% perfect...clean for a xc dually is 80% perfect. On my dh bike clean is 40% perfect. I can plow through a lot of stuff. This would make my times faster though. But I am not racing :)

I realize thats a simple way to look at it but imo its pretty close :)

Maelstrom 06-29-04 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by jcivic00
I'm going back to riding rigid. I never really got into the whole FS thing. IMO people rely more on the suspension rather than thir own skills. I can't wait to see the look on people's faces at the next race season when they just got beat by a complete rigid. HEHE

Whats the point of suspension if you don't use it? If the skills you are talking about are picking good lines, read above. Its all about sarcrifice. Duallies have their place, just depends on what you ride and what your goals are. :)

unrelated 06-29-04 05:18 PM

I don't know if you guys remember that once there were those headsets that has a bit of suspension thingy which reduces the impact to your wrists. I never got to try one, wonder why it failed.

khuon 06-29-04 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by unrelated
I don't know if you guys remember that once there were those headsets that has a bit of suspension thingy which reduces the impact to your wrists. I never got to try one, wonder why it failed.

In the headset? I've seen the suspension mounted just below as in the Cannondale HeadShok and in the stem as with the old Girvin Flexstem but I don't ever recall there being any suspension in the headset itself.


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