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Old 09-22-09, 02:25 PM
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Is there any advantage to tubeless ?

Is there any advantage to going tubeless?

Besides *slightly* less weight? I don't think so myself, thoughts/comments?
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Old 09-22-09, 02:33 PM
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lower tire pressures, no pinch flats
and for small punctures and such, they seal up instantly 98% of the time.
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My brother has tubeless wheels on his SS. When I asked him way he didn't commit, his answer was "I'm old school, dude..."
 
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Originally Posted by AltheCyclist View Post
Is there any advantage to going tubeless?

Besides *slightly* less weight? I don't think so myself, thoughts/comments?
no tubes to puncture
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Old 09-22-09, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dion Rides View Post
My brother has tubeless wheels on his SS. When I asked him way he didn't commit, his answer was "I'm old school, dude..."
that doesn't even make any sense.
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Lol!

wow.
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all the kids are doin' it.
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It's so quick and easy to set up, so set-and-forget hassle-free to live with and so infinitely reliable?







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I freakin' swear, dude...it's like the search fctn doesn't even stinkin' work around here anymore...lately.



OP: Tubeless will allow you to roll lower PSI w/o pinch flat, using stan's tubeless will seal small holes (thorns), lower rolling resistance...all sorts of crap. Check out the search function for whatever I missed. I'm not tubeless though.
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Hey Doug...whazzup with your sponsor?


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^ +1 i always look at that and think they could be a bit more creative.
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Lower pressure and less flats are good stuff.
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Originally Posted by AltheCyclist View Post
Is there any advantage to going tubeless?

Besides *slightly* less weight? I don't think so myself, thoughts/comments?
i haven't bothered. i put a couple ounces of stans in my tubes and have had great success with regard to flats. i have done a number of XC races and a few 24hr races, no flats.

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Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
OP: Tubeless will allow you to roll lower PSI w/o pinch flat, . . . .
But I consistently run 20-25 psi through rocks from volcanic basalt to sharp granite and can't remember the last pinch-flat I've had. How do I justify messing with Stan's gunk and sealing rims and all of that?

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Hey Doug...whazzup with your sponsor?
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Dunno; ask Peaty. Better yet, ask the designers behind the imagery for the new movie. Maybe they're Peaty fans. Logo was quite a bit different in 1986:

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I think it's just a diff. betw. the autobot and decepticon logos. The one you showed is Autobot.

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and i run fairly low pressure

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that doesn't even make any sense.
I'm just the messenger, dude.

Sure doesn't slow him down any. My bro is one fast mofo.
 
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Originally Posted by chelboed View Post
I think it's just a diff. betw. the autobot and decepticon logos. The one you showed is Autobot.
The subtleties I miss because I was playing with the wrong toys of my kids. I think those were about Fisher Price Little people time around our place.
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Originally Posted by -_RebelRidin'_- View Post
lower tire pressures, no pinch flats
and for small punctures and such, they seal up instantly 98% of the time.
From my experience, this is disadvantage of tubeless... the pinch flats still come and it's harder to change them. You can change out a tube in under 10 mins. A flat tubeless means you're walking (or try to replace with a tube, which defeats the purpose). What do the mountain racers do? I.e. If they get a tubeless flat is the race over?
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Originally Posted by AltheCyclist View Post
From my experience, this is disadvantage of tubeless... the pinch flats still come and it's harder to change them. You can change out a tube in under 10 mins. A flat tubeless means you're walking (or try to replace with a tube, which defeats the purpose). What do the mountain racers do? I.e. If they get a tubeless flat is the race over?
no, you put a tube in it.

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Originally Posted by AltheCyclist View Post
From my experience, this is disadvantage of tubeless... the pinch flats still come and it's harder to change them. You can change out a tube in under 10 mins. A flat tubeless means you're walking (or try to replace with a tube, which defeats the purpose). What do the mountain racers do? I.e. If they get a tubeless flat is the race over?
Jeez dude I've ran as little as 14 rear and 12 psi front and never pinch flatted a tubeless setup. I have burped the front at low pressures. If your charging into sharp edges hard enough to pinch flat a tire sidewall, you need better riding skills
EDIT and if you racing and get flat,Tubeless or standard, your race is done either way.
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my bike gained 10oz when i went tubeless.
switched from non-ust tires and tubes to ust tires with stans.
oh well.
peace of mind is worth 10oz to me.
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Originally Posted by AltheCyclist View Post
From my experience, this is disadvantage of tubeless... the pinch flats still come and it's harder to change them. You can change out a tube in under 10 mins. A flat tubeless means you're walking (or try to replace with a tube, which defeats the purpose). What do the mountain racers do? I.e. If they get a tubeless flat is the race over?
Isn't a pinch flat from pinching the tube? You can't do that with tubeless. I guess you might be describing a low pressure flat where the tire itself is pinched and torn?
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My conversion back in February (non UST): lose the tube, switch the rim strip, add the Stan's. Pretty simple. Did a re-charge of Stan's in July. Close to 1000 trail miles with no flats.
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If you get a bad enough flat running tubeless that requires you to put a tube in to get home, having a tube to begin with wouldn't have helped.

IE if you actually cut or slice the tire.

But for all the other small punctures that leave you flat if you're still using tubes, the sealant of a tubeless system will keep you rolling. If you notice that you're losing air you can just blast some CO2 or shoot a little sealant in, spin the tire, keep on riding.

I couldn't believe how many holes my rear tire had, yet still held air. And I'm not even using a good sealant, I'm still rockin' Bontrager Super Juice on my tubeless setup.

I have a question for everyone who says "I don't want to mess with setting it up," have you actually tried to setup tubeless? It's super easy.
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