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Old 10-14-09, 06:09 PM
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Cannondale F4 or Specialized RH SL Expert?

Hello, i'm a noob looking to upgrade my P.1 AM Disc (too heavy) to either the F4 or the RH SL Expert.

the weights for the bikes are 28lbs - F4, 26lbs RH SL Expert.
i prefer the color scheme of the F4 but the RH is decent
i do mostly NYC Paved riding and will have a separate set of tires for paved, will installed these stock tires when i go off road.

which bike would you recommend? what are the pro/cons of each bike?
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RS Recon vs. RST Deuce, Elixirs vs Aurigas, Deore/XT mix vs. Deore...the Rockhopper's got it all over the F4. Did you ride them though? Their geometry is a little different, so they'll ride a little differently. The big thing, though, is they'll ride differently than your P-bike. P-bikes are slack and playful, while the Rockhopper and F4 will be racier and more XC-ish. You said you're doing NYC paved riding...are you commuting or riding urban? Because if "paved riding" means urban assault, you might be going in the wrong direction.
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Whats the diff between urban assault and commuting?

i know the RH has better specs out of the box, but i already have a Recon (Specialized OE take-off) so the fork situation should be equalized.

my LBS is offering me $100 to upgrade (they keep the set of brakes) to Juicy 5's, and a $30 upgrade to Sram X.9 Rear Deraileur. so for $130 on top, my brakes and RD will be better than the RH and i will still be cheaper. does this sound like a good deal for the F4 then? or is the RH still the better bike stock?
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Old 10-16-09, 12:27 AM
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bump, anyone else?
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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
i prefer the color scheme of the F4 but the RH is decent
Pick the color scheme that you want and run with it. That's all. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
Whats the diff between urban assault and commuting?


vs.



For the former, an XC bike is a step in the wrong direction. For the latter, you'll likely be happier with a Rockhopper or F4 than your current bike.
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Old 10-16-09, 06:04 AM
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All about the Rockhopper. If you comparing the F3 to the RH, you would have a harder choice, (hint: Cannondale would win) but I would go for the Rockhopper without a hesitation.
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Old 10-16-09, 09:54 PM
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2010 F4 w/ RS Recon Fork + Avid Elixir R + Deore XT RD + Deore XT Triggers: 1050 + 100 + 50 + 80 = $1280 for the F4 2010 RH SL Expert stock for $1350 decision gets a little harder now... i get the same fork, better brakes, better triggers and the same RD for $70 cheaper which i can spend on more crap to add to the bike. also, the F4 will be about 1-1.5lbs lighter with the Recon fork over RST and all the drive-train upgrades
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It sounds like you want the F4 (I read your post on MTBR as well)... If both bikes fit the same, and you like the look of the F4 more and you have the parts it seems like a no brainer. Go with what your heart tells you [/cliche]
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i know i like the aesthetics of the F4, but is the RH frame/bike that much better? am i making the wrong decision by going to F4?
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Ride them both, get the one you like. If you like the C'dale, get it, because if you buy the Rockhopper and that's not the bike you want, all you'll do is second guess yourself the entire way home. I don't think you'll truly be disappointed either way. We can't make the decision for you.
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reporting in guys, just ordered the 2010 RH SL Pro, got it for $1300. how did i do on the price? i'll have the bike by tomorrow
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cannondale frames are crap. specialized has the strongest frames in the industry. you made a good choice and did well on the price.
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Originally Posted by mtb_man_14 View Post
cannondale frames are crap. specialized has the strongest frames in the industry.
Eh? Where'd that information come from?

To the OP: Pics or it didn't happen!

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Originally Posted by mtb_man_14 View Post
cannondale frames are crap. specialized has the strongest frames in the industry. you made a good choice and did well on the price.
got a reference saying why cdale frames r crap?? if u dont then shut up.

i know i made a good choice, but i didn't base it on quality of frame, i actually liked the cdale frame design better...
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Originally Posted by Zephyr11 View Post
Eh? Where'd that information come from?

To the OP: Pics or it didn't happen!
picking bike up tomorrow from Roys Sheepshead Cycle in NYC, anyone from around there?
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Rockhopper SL Pro

I was close to getting one of those but ended up going FS and getting a Trance X3.


Pics!!!
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Old 10-25-09, 01:53 AM
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http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=565706 pics and more info here!
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Old 10-25-09, 02:44 AM
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How often do you have to pump up the air in the suspension fork?
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Originally Posted by yerodtr View Post
Rockhopper SL Pro

I was close to getting one of those but ended up going FS and getting a Trance X3.


Pics!!!
I wasn't as smart as you. I bought the RH then the Trance. Should have went straight to FS.
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Originally Posted by D.I.S.C.O View Post
I wasn't as smart as you. I bought the RH then the Trance. Should have went straight to FS.
why go straight to FS? you learn more tech skills riding a HT, and u get better parts/price w/ a HT.
w/ a FS bike a rider can easily become lazy

and i dont know about pumping, the shop pumped it according to my weight and i'm going to get a pump soon.. so i'll let u know
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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
why go straight to FS? you learn more tech skills riding a HT, and u get better parts/price w/ a HT.
w/ a FS bike a rider can easily become lazy
You know, people say that, but I'm not sure it's true. You get better when you ride more, and you ride more with a bike you like. Additionally, if you're more confident on the bike, you're more likely to challenge yourself, and you only improve when you step a little outside of your comfort zone.
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How is it? And what were you saying, putting a sram x9 derailleur on it? It had a deore drivetrain? That's not gonna work.
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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
why go straight to FS? you learn more tech skills riding a HT, and u get better parts/price w/ a HT.
w/ a FS bike a rider can easily become lazy
FS is more forgiving and inspires confidence. Would you teach a new driver in a F1 Race car or a Toyota Corolla?

I almost give up mountain biking this spring because it was so frustrating on the HT. I was fortunate to realize the problem was the bike and not me. God knows how many noobs have given up trail riding. Since then I have done chair-lift downhill and difficult trails and ride as much as I can.

I disagree with the better parts argument too. Suspension is a part of the bike and HT is missing it! If you can afford it buy FS. If you can't then you can't.
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Originally Posted by LOUISSSSS View Post
got a reference saying why cdale frames r crap?? if u dont then shut up.

i know i made a good choice, but i didn't base it on quality of frame, i actually liked the cdale frame design better...
I do actually. Tests have proven multiple times that specialized has the strongest frames. I know a guy with an F5. the welds cracked around the headset and he had to have the frame sent out to be replaced. It was under warranty but still... the welds are very thin and so is the aluminum. They may be light but not the strongest. C-dale was better when they were handmade in the us but after they got shipped they started to suck.
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