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Old 07-29-04, 03:34 AM
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Coming out of the closet - Roadie looking for MTB. suggestions?

Ok, I admit, I love mountain biking!

I am looking at buying a hardtail for casual and and a bit of fast riding, but no racing, to add variety instead of just many road miles. The only one that I've found in my price range so far is the '2004 KHS Alite 2000'.

I am trying to keep to a budget of NZD $1400 (USD $880 or so). I want a bike that isn't gonna fall apart witha reasonable bit of riding, and good for gravel roads and relatively easy trails. (I sometimes ride hard, but not really into jumps as I have poor balance).

Also, what's best? Rim, Hydraulic disc or cable disc brakes? From what I have heard, I would like to stay away from hydraulic discs, but what do you all think?

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Old 07-29-04, 07:26 AM
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Any of the specialized,trek,giant bikes should fit your bill fine for an $800 hardtail. As for the brakes a good set of hydraulics are great. You cant beat'em, but in a cheaper bike on that the brakes become cheaper and i'd look more towards cable discs and even Vs
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Peters right, on the cheaper bikes, companies sometimes put Hydro brakes on to make the bike more inviting to the customer, although, even though they are hydros, because they are cheap they often arent as affective as a good set of V Brakes.

We really ned to know how much you weigh, because then we can get a good picture of how hard your going to be on your equipment, i would suggest, maybe a Specialized Hardrock, thats a solid bike, and you cant beat it for the money, also, possibly the Rockhopper? I really arent too sure though, they would be my suggestions though
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Some mtbers use a disc front (diff mounts on suspension fork) and a side pull caliper rear.

The real stopping power is front. If you have a light HT and don't weigh lots or go down monster DH runs, a set of quality side pulls are fine--Then if needed, upgrade to a disc front when and if.

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Peters right, on the cheaper bikes, companies sometimes put Hydro brakes on to make the bike more inviting to the customer, although, even though they are hydros, because they are cheap they often arent as affective as a good set of V Brakes.
I just bought an Cannondale F600 Furio, mainly because of the hardtail and fork lockout (which is great). I bought the mechanical disc brake option, but I actually preferred my V-brakes on my old Y5.
Anywhoo...this is about $CDN1400, very happy so far and I very glad I dumped my full suspension bike, as a road rider, they just seem counter-intuitive to guys who go up hills.
 
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The V's on my old bike are alot better thatn my mechanicals, so i upgraded to Hydros, never regretted it
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Get an '04 Marin Nail Trail. Right in the price range and with Hayes 9 Hydraulic Discs. Nice componant set, too.
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I weigh about 71kg, which I worked out to be 156.5 lbs?

I wont be thrashing the bike as such, but at times in the middle of summer I can be rather strong from riding on the road alot, and I'll probably ride very fast on the MTB, just not jump it and stuff.

Also I need to look at pedals/shoes. I have Sidi road shoes, and Wellgo (look compatible) pedals. Am I best off going for a different setup on the MTB? My thoughts are either get a MTB shoe and pedal setup seperate from the road bike, or get one that I can use for both road and MTB, so I have one pair of shoes for both types of riding.
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I weigh about 71kg, which I worked out to be 156.5 lbs?

I wont be thrashing the bike as such, but at times in the middle of summer I can be rather strong from riding on the road alot, and I'll probably ride very fast on the MTB, just not jump it and stuff.
I personally would be looking at the Specialized Rockhopper lineup (Comp or Pro Disc) and the K2 Zed series (4.0) as they're right in your price range and are very solid hardtails with an excellent mix of components. There are of course others too such as the Trek 6700 and the Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo.


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Also I need to look at pedals/shoes. I have Sidi road shoes, and Wellgo (look compatible) pedals. Am I best off going for a different setup on the MTB? My thoughts are either get a MTB shoe and pedal setup seperate from the road bike, or get one that I can use for both road and MTB, so I have one pair of shoes for both types of riding.
In your pricerange, the bikes will probably come with clipless pedals. Most likely they'll be equipped with SPD or SPD clones. The cleats for these pedals will not fit your road shoes nor would you want to attempt hitting the trails with road shoes. Those things are awkward enough to walk and stand around in on a hard flat surface nevermind anything uneven, rocky and rooted. I would recommend getting a MTB specific shoe. They will most undoubtedly be SPD compatible so you don't have to worry about pedal/cleat/shoe compatibility.
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Hmmm, bikes seem to be more expensive over here. The Rockhopper is NZD$1,800 and the Trek 6700 was a whopping NZD$4,000! The hardrock comes in nicely at NZD$1,500 though, so that is within the range. (I have decided that I may have an extra 100 to spend, which is great).

As for the pedals, I think I may have to go for platform pedals, or dig out the old 'rat traps' (toe strap) pedals in the meantime while I save up for some new shoes and pedals. I know I have some SPD's that came with my road bike, but finding them is going to be mission impossible, but I will try.

Thanks for the help so far.

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Old 07-30-04, 10:11 PM
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I may look at getting a Raceline. My road bike is made by them, and it seems pretty indestructable, even though I have crashed it several times, including a really big wipe out.

I don't know how much any of the models cost, but you can find the hardtails here: http://www.racelinebikes.com/range.php?range=hardtail

I have copied the info from that page onto here. I believe they go from high-end first, to low end at the bottom.

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Team

Frame: Alpha X Aluminium with 3D forged disc dropouts & integrated headtube.
Fork: RockShox Sid Race with 80mm travel
Shifters: Shimano XT 9 speed
Wheels: Mavic Cross Roc UST Tubeless
Drivetrain: Truvativ Stylo Chainwheel with Shimano XT front and XTR rear deraileurs
Brakes: Shimano XT hydraulic disc
Tyres: Michelin Jet S tubeless
Saddle: Selle Italia Oktavia genuine gel
Handlebar: Easton EA70 bar & Easton EA70 A-Head stem
Pedal: Shimano PD-515



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Expert

Frame: 7005 triple butted aluminium with 3D forged disc dropouts & integrated headtube.
Fork: Manitou Black sport with 80mm travel
Shifters: Shimano LX 9 speed
Wheels: Mavic X223 rims with Formula sealed bearing disc hubs.
Drivetrain: Truvativ Stylo Chainwheel with Shimano LX front and XT rear deraileurs
Brakes: Hayes HFX-9XC Hydraulic disc
Tyres: Michelin Wildgripper X-Comp
Saddle: Selle Italia Focus Trans Am
Handlebar: Easton EA50 & Easton EA50 A-head
Pedal: Shimano PD-M515



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Comp

Frame: 7005 triple butted aluminium with 3D forged disc dropouts & integrated headtube.
Fork: Manitou 6 Sport with 80mm travel.
Shifters: Shimano Deore 9 speed
Wheels: Mavic X223 rims with Shimano disc hubs.
Drivetrian: Truvativ Firex chainwheel with Shimano Deore front and LX rear deraileurs.
Brakes: Hayes HFX-9XC Hydraulic disc
Tyres: Michelin Wildgripper XL
Saddle: Selle Italia XO Tran Am
Handlebar: Titec Hellbent XC and Titec Big Al A-head stem
Pedal: Shimano PD-M515



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Enduro

Frame: 7005 double butted aluminium with 3D forged disc dropouts.
Fork: Manitou Six 80mm travel
Shifters: Shimano Deore
Wheels: Wienmann Zac 2000 rims with Formula disc hubs
Drivetrain: Truvativ Firex chainwheel with Shimano Deore front and rear deraileurs.
Brakes: Shimano BR-M475 Mechanical disc
Saddle: Selle Italia XO Trans Am
Handlebar: Titec Hellbent XC & Titec Big Al A-head stem.
Pedal: Steel cage
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I don't know how much any of the models cost, but you can find the hardtails here:
Of the various models you listed, I personally would lean towards the Expert. From the prices I'm seeing (~AUD$2000), it looks to be about half the price of the Team (~AUD$3800) but still offers a very good set of components and wheels. IMHO, LX level components will shift just as nicely as the XT on the Team although they're probably spec'ing the new style XT for the Team. I do like the Mavic Crossroc Tubeless on the Team even though I'm not that big a fan of tubeless. The rims are very nice though but I would still edge towards the Expert and use the cash difference to upgrade wheels if I wanted to. That said, the Mavic X223 rims are nothing to sneeze at. The only thing I'd probably do with the Expert is swap the riser bar for a flat bar but that's just my personal preference and should you choose to do it too, the bike shop can probably do it at little to no extra charge.
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Hello,

I been away from the forums for quite some time, and since then my parents have kindly purchased me a hardtail that was on special. It's nothing flash, but should do the trick. It is an Apollo Independent - not sure if they are sold in the US, but Apollo bikes own Raceline Bikes (of which I listed some of their models earlier) and they also own another brand that I can't quite think of.

I have been to do some MTB a few times since I got the new bike, and I just love it, awesome fun.

Thanks for your help and I shall see you around on both road and MTB forums now.
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