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Old 10-29-09, 04:30 PM
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If money were not an issue

Guess I felt like playing 20 questions today.

The what: If you could only choose one HT frame for all XC riding (and maybe mild DH once in a blue moon), which one would you pick and why?

The why: I fell in love with the look of the wooden frames by Renovo and decided to do a 3d computer model of a MTB version as a learning excersise. I might as well pick a good proven geometry.
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If money were not an issue (your title), 'hardtail' would no longer be a part of my vocabulary.
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
If money were not an issue (your title), 'hardtail' would no longer be a part of my vocabulary.
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Lots of hardtails out there I'd love: Transition Bank, Banshee Scirocco, Yeti DJ, etc. But as long as money's no object, I'd be using an FS instead. So I'll say the Tonic Fab Fall Guy. Awesome looking little bike that I'd love to ride but don't have the money for, and can't think of an FS to replace it with.
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Litespeed Kitsuma - best HT ever made. It's what I ride - FS is better for most mountain biking, but for the way I ride -18 mile round trip to the trail head, can take a 6 foot drop, 25 pounds, minimal maintenance - best bike ever (and I keep 1 or 3 FS bikes around all the time).
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Old 10-29-09, 09:19 PM
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I'd build up a super weight weenie Niner Air9 carbon single speed with carbon fork. It would weigh under 15lbs. Or maybe a titanium custom 29er from Black Sheep, Jeff Jones, or whoever builds the hottest titanium frames. It would be polished to perfection and would have lots of matching polished parts including a matching custom titanium seatpost and handlebar.
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Old 10-30-09, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
If money were not an issue (your title), 'hardtail' would no longer be a part of my vocabulary.
I'd still run a hardtail. Probably a vertex RSL.

But 'XC' and 'DH' would never appear together on an intended usage list.

Even with the 'mild' prefix.
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IF TI Deluxe.
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probably like C Law said:
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Is that one of Cannondale's Lefties on there or is someone else making them now, too?
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Old 10-30-09, 11:00 AM
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i think the bike was made to fit a lefty. Not positive though, it's a picture of a customers custom so who knows.
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Old 10-30-09, 11:37 AM
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Thats Harlan Prices bike. Custom made to fit a 100mm cannondale lefty fork

If I were getting one bike to do it all, I would have them build me up a TI-29er to accomodate a 120mm fork. A bit laid back geo to handle some gnarlier **** but still be able to race endurance on it. Maybe ask 'em to build it on the burlier side of XC. (IE I don't want a super light whippy ride)
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Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
Or maybe a titanium custom 29er from Black Sheep, Jeff Jones, or whoever builds the hottest titanium frames.
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Heres mine - 140mm up front, 8" disc, 15mm axle, can take a 2.5" tire - 25 pounds.

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Looks flexy. Does it come in rootbeer?
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Old 10-30-09, 01:25 PM
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probably like C Law said:
I'll take two, please.
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Old 10-30-09, 01:26 PM
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I had all the flex removed from the frame when I got it. It comes in any color you want - as long as you want ti.
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Originally Posted by sscyco View Post
Heres mine - 140mm up front, 8" disc, 15mm axle, can take a 2.5" tire - 25 pounds.

Head angle looks a little steep for DH. What's the head angle on that sucker?
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If money was not an issue I'd get a ****load of bikes!
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this would be choice 2
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this would be choice 2
For the gay stoker.
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you know that would be so much fun on some singletrak.
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you could fit at least 6 more bottle holders on that thing
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I just got back in town late last night. Thanks for all the input.
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I like what I've read about the Lightspeed Kitsuma, but since it's not made anymore, I'm having trouble finding it's geometry. Anyone have a source? Perhaps a scan of the owner's manual?
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Frankly - even though I own it, I don't know what the geometry is - slack for the time. I had a Litespeed Owl Hollow HT made in 1998 (custom geometry) - loved that bike. When 2001 came around, so did the Kitsuma - very odd bike at the time - sub 4 pound frame, can take a huge tire (not too many available then), 5"+ fork, had cnc'd gussets, 6-4 ti in all the places that mattered. I wanted one so bad, but could not justify its use or price. I found this one on Ebay (frame only) about a year and a half ago - now it's my main mtn bike. The owl hollow is almost finished the transformation to a 20 pound SS dirt jumper.
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