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thatsut 04-04-10 03:54 AM

full suspension travel/folding mtb question
 
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hello all,

im looking for a full suspension bike which packs/folds.

i dont mind going slow and enjoying the veiws on the single tracks but it a bike for touring thus the potability is importantant. now the touchy subject yes i know big wheels are much more comfortable for anything other than tarmac, however i am willing to comprimise here for portability and ideally would like a 20" wheel is possible. (gasp) yes 20" wheels :lol:

i have done a great deal of researh and know what i want so please only post a FS bike thats packs/folds. additionally do you think i could get away with smaller wheels on this frame? e.g. see image below. ANd do you know what model it is? and if there are any others that can do it?

victim 04-04-10 06:05 AM

That bike is not what I'd consider to be a "folder". Your going to at the trailhead a long, long, long time getting that sucker ready to ride. If your willing to do that much dis and reassembly you can pick out almost any bike out there. Good luck.

Zephyr11 04-04-10 06:35 AM

I'm not sure you're going to find a full suspension 20" folding mountain bike. Montague makes folding mountain bikes for the military, but they're 26" hardtails, and how good they actually are is anyone's guess.

I would not put 20's on that bike you have pictured there.

Is this so the bike fits in your car? A good roof rack is indispensable.

Dheorl 04-04-10 06:38 AM

Swiss bike, although not FS but if your pootling along enjoying the view, I geuss your not doing anything too technical. Do you really need FS?

thatsut 04-04-10 06:44 AM

i'm not sure you're going to find a full suspension 20" folding mountain bike. the airnimal rhino is a fs 20" bike, but i would like to know of others.

Do you really need FS? to keep it short and unsarcastic... :) yes, slightly longer... hardtails i find less enjoyable to control etc

thatsut 04-04-10 06:46 AM

vitcim iM intrested in a "travel/folding" bike thus 20min assembly is fine thanks. and the frame in the image below only removes the link at one point thus reducing the fab time

mystolenbikes 04-04-10 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10620637)
vitcim iM intrested in a "travel/folding" bike thus 20min assembly is fine thanks. and the frame in the image below only removes the link at one point thus reducing the fab time

Really? what happens to the chain and the rear derailleur?

thatsut 04-05-10 02:14 AM

I prefer IGH anyway :) (internal gear hubs)

thatsut 04-06-10 10:11 AM

Come on guys anyone Know a FS "travel" aka "packable" bike?

thx

sscyco 04-06-10 10:53 AM

Dude - you didn't get an answer you liked last time you posted a thread like this - why the repeat?

mystolenbikes 04-06-10 11:52 AM

I think I found what you looking for.

It's full suspension and foldable. :D
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...T/F16D618V.jpg

bikinfool 04-06-10 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10630927)
Come on guys anyone Know a FS "travel" aka "packable" bike?

thx

It's a mountain biking forum. Not a travel with the least useful bike for mountain biking forum. Of course, what you need is a rigid 29er ss bike. :)

thatsut 04-09-10 09:19 AM

thanks for the help guys.

“Why the repeat?” call me strange but I wanted some ideas advice etc did i come to the wrong place for advice?

“It's a mountain biking forum. Not a travel with the least useful bike for mountain biking forum..” Thanks bikinfool ... you know what maybe i should get a rigid 29er ss because thats what all "mountain bikers" ride as apposed to having the most appropriate compromise which suits their individual needs for example a Santa Cruz Heckler, Santa Cruz Nomad, Moots YBB, Trek OCLV Pro Issue, American Breezer or a TST or Trek 2300 for the road:).

thatsut 04-09-10 09:21 AM

double post

bikinfool 04-09-10 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10646483)
thanks for the help guys.

“Why the repeat?” call me strange but I wanted some ideas advice etc did i come to the wrong place for advice?

“It's a mountain biking forum. Not a travel with the least useful bike for mountain biking forum..” Thanks bikinfool ... you know what maybe i should get a rigid 29er ss because thats what all "mountain bikers" ride as apposed to having the most appropriate compromise which suits their individual needs for example a Santa Cruz Heckler, Santa Cruz Nomad, Moots YBB, Trek OCLV Pro Issue, American Breezer or a TST or Trek 2300 for the road:).

:lol: I just can't part with any of mine. That's not just one Heckler, but three (one has 650b wheels, tho!).

Do you need to travel for your job on commercial airlines a lot? I could perhaps see a 20" wheeled folder in that circumstance. I hate flying commercial airlines let alone with a normal bike with them. I have yet to see a 20" wheeled mountain bike on trail (except for a kid's model), pretty much the only thing I've seen on the subject are this guy's series of posts on mtbr (this is the last one I saw, but has links to three previous ones) http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=465095

sscyco 04-09-10 10:30 PM

OK - coming out of the closet.

I ride a folder - ONLY WHEN I TRAVEL - I have ripped trail riders a new one all over the world on 20" - and I am heading out again on Monday for China - the bike rocks, but in the back of my mind I feel like a clown...... Not FS - and I don't need it.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_haCltcUpKTI/Sk...0/DSC_0001.JPG
Portland, OR - coming back from 20 miles off road.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_haCltcUpKTI/Sh...2/IMG_1264.JPG

Not A trail - but some of the bridges in Istanbul (last year) make MTB trails look like MUPs

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_haCltcUpKTI/Sk...28Large%29.JPG

Dude - if you really need a folder, get a pair - get a quality rigid folder and ride. Quit whining about what you need and get out and ride.

thatsut 04-10-10 04:19 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikedaily/311666325/

Chris_F 04-10-10 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by mystolenbikes (Post 10621568)
Really? what happens to the chain and the rear derailleur?

And the bottom bracket, cranks and rings. And the head set, handle bars, shifters. And the pedals, wheels, brakes. And the fork...

If you're going to entirely disassemble and reassemble a bike then there's no need to get a folding anything. Remember to pack all those specialized tools as well.

thatsut 04-10-10 10:40 AM

"And the bottom bracket, cranks and rings. And the head set, handle bars, shifters. And the pedals, wheels, brakes. And the fork...

If you're going to entirely disassemble and reassemble a bike then there's no need to get a folding anything. Remember to pack all those specialized tools as well."

do you mean alley key and adjustable spanner.... thanks chris... no reallly thanks.... really insightful. :crash:

victim 04-10-10 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10649937)

Looks good. Buy that one.

thatsut 04-10-10 12:57 PM

"Looks good. Buy that one." agree just wish i knew where. :)

Grimlock 04-10-10 07:40 PM

Is anyone sure that the bike in this picture is ACTUALLY a folder or is it just a DH bike with 20" wheels on it?

Also, Thatsut, you're going to need a few more tools and a lot more than twenty minutes to get a frame from the state in the first pic to a trail-worthy bike.

thatsut 04-11-10 02:34 AM

"Is anyone sure that the bike in this picture is ACTUALLY a folder or is it just a DH bike with 20" wheels on it?" GOOD question grimlock

"Also, Thatsut, you're going to need a few more tools and a lot more than twenty minutes to get a frame from the state in the first pic to a trail-worthy bike."

ok i dont want to go into that much deatail yet, but as you provoked me....

allen key to remove thredless headset which a seemed something is preferable so all stay on bike this enable removal of forks and bars. whells have QR.

no front derailer. rear IHG. Hollowtech crank (no crank pulley just allen keys)

so far.... crank, bars, forks, wheels removed ( note full cables)

allen key for rear swingarm.

grimlock. i havent even needed to mention a Spanner/rench yet...

it can be done... speaking as a guy who used to make bike when i was a kid. and a Man who is now a designer. this is easy, solving problems is what i do best, and not to sound crude, but the reasons others whom cant pay me.

another bike project (one of many) http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ight=brrompton

and another small project....

http://media.buildingsmedia.com/imag...Marcus1_lg.jpg

thx

ed 04-11-10 01:44 PM

Whenever I read your posts...I want to scratch out my eyes. As soon as txt went mainstream, people forgot how to navigate the QWERTY with regards to the punctuation and CAPS. I mean really thatsut...I know none of us are perfect...but we're not 14 years old either. Your posts are painful to look at. Ummm...spellcheck?


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10620412)
...im looking for a full suspension bike which packs/folds...enjoying the veiws on the single tracks but it a bike for touring thus the potability is importantant. now the touchy subject yes i know big wheels are much more comfortable for anything other than tarmac, however i am willing to comprimise here for portability and ideally would like a 20" wheel is possible. (gasp) yes 20" wheels :lol:

i have done a great deal of researh and know what i want so please only post a FS bike thats packs/folds. additionally do you think i could get away with smaller wheels on this frame? e.g. see image below. ANd do you know what model it is? and if there are any others that can do it?

I'm confused. No wait! You're confused. Do you want a bike to ride singletrack(s) or do you want a bike to tour? Being that this is a mountain bike forum, I only assume the former...thus a 20" folding dually is about as brilliant as kicking yourself in the twig'n'berries. If you've "done a great deal of research and know what you want"...why are you here? Positive reinforcement?

A 20" folding dually is as worthless as the blue one you see above. Terrible idea. Ask Google about Burro Bikes. They make a good portable 2" travel rigid dually. (it may take a minute...but you'll get it)




Looking at your other thread that you're baiting so much...you seem desperate.



Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10308109)
210 views two comments.. did i offend some bromtoneers? :( really i keep telling myself its only a slight change :)

Desperate much?


Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10495254)
hi gents & gals,

Would like some help in a name for my bike.

was thinking something along the lines of.... Ekahau.... "mayan god of Travellers", but is not very catchy but symbolically the mayan walked the longest from africa thus respect is due.

or ....hawk... because i often see birds of prey when I out riding my bike in th middle of nowhere and i think they are similar to the type of tourer i am e.g. solo, independant also free as a bird

Truly a visionary :lol:



Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10303038)
"And what is that on the handlebar? It looks like a small torch pointing skywards!"
Folding torch and mount, when in use sticks out (see top photos) when bike is folded "point sykward". 900 lumen for country roads with no street lights at night when theres no moon light

I'd like to see the spec's on that torch...900lm is impressive and truly unbelieveable. Mine was marketed as 900lm, but the SSC P7 driven at a "fairly hot" 2.8amps is still only in the 700 range on a good day.




Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10630927)
Come on guys anyone Know a FS "travel" aka "packable" bike?

thx

Still desperate...engineer one.



Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10646483)
I wanted some ideas advice etc did i come to the wrong place for advice?

You came to the MTB forum for touring advice...yet you've done "a great deal of research".



Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10646493)
double post

Was this just so you can reply to yourself again? You're very good at that. Maybe you could give it a minute or two and see if people reply before giving yourself a "bump" back to the top. :thumb:




Originally Posted by thatsut (Post 10653235)
allen key to remove thredless headset which a seemed something is preferable so all stay on bike this enable removal of forks and bars. whells have QR.

It takes more than an allen wrench to remove a headset.








I'm done for now, but I really don't know about you, man.

bikinfool 04-11-10 02:36 PM

Ed, you forgot his inability to work with the "reply with quote" button, too. :)


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