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Old 10-02-04, 02:08 PM
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Spoke Tightening

Anyone know what the proper sequence is to tightening spokes (all spokes are loose on both front and rear)? i.e. all the spokes on the drive side, then all the ones on the otherside, or every other pair on one side, or both sides, or every other one, etc. My spokes are pretty loose on the old wheelset (like two can be turned with fingers) so I need to freshen em' up abit. Any advice from expierience folks would be great, thanks.
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Old 10-02-04, 04:42 PM
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i would say start at... 1 go to 3 then 5 then 7.... and so on, or switch sides back and forth. just take a white out pen of put a white mark on the ones you have done or started on.

i could be completly wrong, so dont count on that to work
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Start at the valve and tighten every spoke up one half then back one quarter in sequence until you get back to the valve. How loose are they now? Spin the rim (you have taken off the tire havenít you?) and check for true if you are still pretty true and you need all tighter proceed as before but up one quarter back one eighth. (You are using a real spoke key in the right size yes?) once you get to a point where all spokes start to tighten you look for loose spokes and bring them to an equal light tension. Keep spinning the rim to make sure it is not going out of round or out of true if it is then you have tightened something too much.

Beyond this you need a truing stand.

Truing wheels is not hard to do, but it is I think beyond my ability to teach by words alone. There are many things that may or may not happen during the tightening process and they must be addressed properly to keep the rim true, round and concentric to the hub.
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Originally Posted by WorldWind
Start at the valve and tighten every spoke up one half then back one quarter in sequence until you get back to the valve. How loose are they now? Spin the rim (you have taken off the tire havenít you?) and check for true if you are still pretty true and you need all tighter proceed as before but up one quarter back one eighth. (You are using a real spoke key in the right size yes?) once you get to a point where all spokes start to tighten you look for loose spokes and bring them to an equal light tension. Keep spinning the rim to make sure it is not going out of round or out of true if it is then you have tightened something too much.

Beyond this you need a truing stand.

Truing wheels is not hard to do, but it is I think beyond my ability to teach by words alone. There are many things that may or may not happen during the tightening process and they must be addressed properly to keep the rim true, round and concentric to the hub.
I haven't removed the tire (was trying to just get them in shape without doing that, but so far hasn't worked out that way), so I'll be pulling the tire off now. I started trying to tighten them every other spoke, but got it out of true so far it began rubbing, so now I loosened all of them to start over. I do have the correct spoke wrench though, so thats not a problem, just think it might take some practice to get it down right
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Old 10-02-04, 06:42 PM
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The best way is go to LBS and pay a few dollars and let a mech. do it!
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Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
The best way is go to LBS and pay a few dollars and let a mech. do it!
Yelp, after about 2 hours and going from fender-bender bad, to train wreck bad, I think I'll leave this one to the man, I appreciate the responses though
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Old 10-02-04, 07:23 PM
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Ask to watch. Fixing a wheel is so utterly simple it isn't funny. First thing I learned to fix (as I warp rims quickly) Once you learn how, enjoy.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Ask to watch. Fixing a wheel is so utterly simple it isn't funny. First thing I learned to fix (as I warp rims quickly) Once you learn how, enjoy.
Bout how long you think it would take?
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depending on how bad the true...5 to 30 minutes...its the theory itself that is simple..you have pull and push spokes. Makes sure thw wheel is centred, find something to keep that centre point and start turning the spokes...I tend to check my rims weekly. I haven't had to true a rim until recently. Keeping proper tension and dish on each wheel prolongs their life greatly.
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:: off topic :: Mael I'm waiting for a picture of your bike.
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Force yourself to learn. An old secondary wheelset is the way to go.

Loosen all the spokes so they're finger tight and turn them so the first thread of each spoke is visible all the way around both sides.

Start with drive side and tighten all the spokes in 1/2 turn increments then back off 1/4 turn. Then do the other side. Then check for true, then roundness, then true again. I don't check for true until I've tightened all the spokes all the way around equal amounts. A properly trued wheel is such that not only is it straight, but all spokes are of equal tension.

True = side to side, tightening pairs of spokes and loosening other side in 1/8 turn increments.
Roundness = removing any flat spots or hops. This is more difficult to adjust for.

Then repeat the process!

When checking for true and round, don't go crazy in one bad area initially, get it close then move on. In successive times around, your adjustments should be smaller and the amount of movement should be less and less.

Also, DO NOT be in a hurry! DO NOT drink more than 3 beers! DO NOT think you'll get it on your first try!

There is so much more to say!

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Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
Force yourself to learn. An old secondary wheelset is the way to go.

Loosen all the spokes so they're finger tight and turn them so the first thread of each spoke is visible all the way around both sides.

Start with drive side and tighten all the spokes in 1/2 turn increments then back off 1/4 turn. Then do the other side. Then check for true, then roundness, then true again. I don't check for true until I've tightened all the spokes all the way around equal amounts. A properly trued wheel is such that not only is it straight, but all spokes are of equal tension.

True = side to side, tightening pairs of spokes and loosening other side in 1/8 turn increments.
Roundness = removing any flat spots or hops. This is more difficult to adjust for.

Then repeat the process!

When checking for true and round, don't go crazy in one bad area initially, get it close then move on. In successive times around, your adjustments should be smaller and the amount of movement should be less and less.

Also, DO NOT be in a hurry! DO NOT drink more than 3 beers! DO NOT think you'll get it on your first try!

There is so much more to say!

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you should be expecting a packaged wheelset in about 3 days, if you find the time, will you put a little shine on em as well?
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Sure, is Mother's Carnuba o.k. with you?

Seriously though, it's easier than you think. When I was first learning, I had an old road bike front wheel that I dissassembled and reassembled about 5 times before I got the hang of it. (That was about 20 years ago!)

Now, I can build wheels in my sleep!

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I took the rear wheel to the shop, and the guy said he did the best he could with it. I think I pulled it to far out of round to get it perfect. The guy at the shop didn't charge me though, so I'm not complaining. Just debating on weather or not I should take the front wheel in, or have another go, this time with more caution..
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