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Old 04-19-11, 07:35 PM
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girl 4'10 looking for mtn bike

Hey guys, my gf is 4'10 weigh 100 and is looking for a mountain bike to ride with me. I am still pretty inexperienced and am having trouble finding something for her that isnt a crappy bike. she is willing to spend from $200 to $300. We ride mainly single track with some steep inclines as well as declines. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Old 04-19-11, 08:29 PM
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for $200 - $300, you will only get a crappy bike. save up your money and get an x-small santa cruz juliana. it will be well worth the wait and the cash you spend.
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Old 04-20-11, 09:51 AM
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Drink the bike industry kool-aid much? Not everyone "needs" a full on race bike. Dont take this too harsh but if you dont have a bike recommendation in someone's budget then keep on moving.

Can "riding a bike" only begin at $1000 and up? Entry level bikes serve a purpose.

I agree that a typical wal mart brand has inferior build quality than a comparably priced big brand, but does that automatically mean you have to jump up in price?

To the OP wants to get an inexperienced rider on a bike to spend time together. GREAT! I'd recommend looking at Performance's, Nashbar, bikes direct, and LBS offerings in your price range in hardtail. Fuji, Specialized, Trek, GT etc would probably be fine for light use.

Choose one with the smallest size frame with geometry that has a steeply sloping top tube(as opposed to ones that are more horizontal). This would give the best standover. At 100lb I doubt any fork will really do much absorbing so I bet 50mm travel and low tire pressure will be just fine and any of the lower offerings will do. If you want to see if one bike is lighter than another feel free but I bet they're all the same.

You can upgrade to lighter components later on if you like. I doubt she'll notice much difference in components as long as they shift smooth and are set up right. Fit will be the biggest thing that will put her at ease.

If you want to go higher dollar then feel free but you'll have to add $200 to the budget to make any small impact, and they'd still weigh about the same.

I built my wife a 'cross bike that is almost better than mine but she has no idea, just enjoys getting out without the kids once in a while.
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At 100lb I doubt any fork will really do much absorbing so I bet 50mm
Put a lightweight coil in or pump up an air fork appropriately and a suspension fork will do a great job! I have an F100 (100mm) on one bike and a Domain (160mm) on another and they both work just fine and are a far cry from my rigid. You won't see either of those forks in a $200-300 bike unless you get super lucky on Craigslist, but don't go in thinking that suspension is useless for people who don't weigh much.

I'll post my 5'3 112lb girl thoughts on this later when I have more time, but wanted to comment on this before I forgot.
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Most of the well known brand names have women specific bikes in their line up. Kool aid or not most of them are going to be over the budget you mentioned.
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Here's a Specialized Myka it's out of the price range but I bet if you went to a bike shop you might be able to get one from last year at a pretty good price, but really 380.00 isn't a bad price eitherhttps://www.bikeparts.com/search_resu...?id=BPCK100192
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Drink the bike industry kool-aid much? Not everyone "needs" a full on race bike. Dont take this too harsh but if you dont have a bike recommendation in someone's budget then keep on moving.
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the juliana is quite far from a full on race bike. don't take this too harsh but i'll recommend what i feel like, and if you don't like what i say, then keep on moving.
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Do you have a measurement for her inseam? 4'10" is bordering on too small for even the XS and 13" hardtails from most manufacturers. You might want to take a look at some more serious 24" wheeled bikes. Most importantly, you need to have her try any bike you're looking at to make sure it fits.
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Alright, have time to actually post now.

As I stated before, I'm 5'3. I ride an XS Yeti AS-R and 14" Jamis Komodo. I wouldn't want either bike to be a cm bigger, ESPECIALLY the Komodo. However, some companies do put out tiny XXS bikes (unfortunately, many of them are boutique companies, and you'll pay out the butt for them). You may be able to find some company's XS or a women's specific XS that fits her, but definitely have her try it first, just to make sure the top tube isn't too long or anything. Don't rule out unisex bikes. Not one of my mountain bikes is women's specific.

I wish I could find a serious 24" mountain bike. I think it would be a heckuva lot of fun. I have a 24" DJ that I ride, and the size of the wheels is great. While I've tried riding singletrack with it a few times, it's just not a good bike for general trail riding. Not because of the size of the wheels, but because of the geometry and gearing. I don't think 24's would be a bad choice for trails, but unfortunately, most 24's that aren't dirt jumpers or BMX cruisers are kids bikes with subpar components (but then again, the components aren't really worse than what you'd find on an adult entry-level bike, it's just that there are few non entry-level kids bikes around).

FWIW, I hate Specialized women specific mountain bikes. I hate the way they ride, I hate the way they fit, and I hate the way they feel. My road bike is a Specialized WSD Ruby, but I can't stand their women's mountain bikes. Just my personal opinion though, and other people may disagree.

Pablo's idea of the XS Juliana is probably the way to go IF you guys are already into mountain biking and know you're going to stick with it enough to make a decent investment in it. Unfortunately, while the Juliana is pretty entry level in the Santa Cruz line, it's not something that a casual rider who wants to spend $300 can be talked into.

I'd get her to try as many little bikes as possible. If worse comes to worse, and the 26's are all too big, try looking at these:
https://www.brodiebikes.com/2010/bikes/menace.php
https://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=shred_2-4
A little above the original price point, but for kids' bikes, they're not bad, and the smaller wheels might not be a bad thing. They're not going to be light, and they're not going to be equipped with top of the line components, but nothing at that price point will be anyway. Some stores might even try to steer you in the kids' bike direction. I had a store try to sell me a Specialized P.Grom (I almost bought it too, and probably would have if I wouldn't have found my current 24"). Whatever you do, don't try to put her on a bike that's to big for her. I made it around the parking lot on the smallest Nomad I could find before crossing it off my list because the thing just felt ginormous, and I knew trail riding would go terribly with it.
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As I stated before, I'm 5'3.
Aluminum jockey!
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Yea thanks I'll look more into those bikes you guys mentioned. I had her at walmart just to try some sizes and the 24" tires were the ones that fit her best. I believe the frames on the most comfortable ones for her were 15". Yea Im going to try to talk her into raising the price a little bit just so I have a little more to work with. Because, we have been mountain biking for a year now about twice a week she just uses her old ****ty mountain bike that weighs prolly 3x more than what she should be riding.
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Be careful with trying on Walmart bikes for size. The biggest problem with Walmart bikes for short people isn't the even quality (though to be fair, that's not very good either)...it's the one size fits all philosophy. Bike store bikes come in a variety of sizes, while Walmart bikes do not. A regular 15" bike is likely too big for her. I'd take that Menace or Shred 2-4 over a Walmart bike any day. They're both little all-mountain hardtails, so they'll be heavy, but at least they'll be decent quality.
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Old 04-21-11, 02:49 PM
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Gary Fisher MT Jam Boys Bike - $65 (Northport/ Carle Place)


Gary Fisher Mt. Jam

Available Sizes 11.5"
Brand Gary Fisher
Component Group Mountain Mix
Fork RST 281, 2.5" travel
Frame Material Steel
Hubs Kung Ten aluminum, nutted
Rims aluminum
Suspension Front Suspension
Tires 24 x 2.00" knobby
Type Kids' Mountain
General Information
Colors: Chrome-Plated
Model: Mt. Jam
Suggested Retail Price: 329.99
Weight: Unspecified
Brakes
Brake Levers: Tektro 317A
Brakeset: Tektro 915A brakes, Tektro 317A levers
Front Brake: Tektro 915A
Front Brake Lever: Tektro 317A
Rear Brake: Tektro 915A
Rear Brake Lever: Tektro 317A
Components
Bottom Bracket: Victor VPB-33W
Bottom Bracket Shell Width: 73mm English
Bottom Bracket Spindle Length: Unspecified
Chain: KMC Z-51, 1/2 x 3/32"
Chain Size: 1/2 x 3/32"
Chainrings: 24/34/42
Crankset: SR XR17, 24/34/42 teeth
Front Derailleur: Shimano Altus top-swing, bottom-pull/clamp-on 28.6mm
Front Derailleur Type: bottom-pull/clamp-on 28.6mm
Handlebar: steel
Handlebar Extensions: chromoly
Handlebar Stem: steel
Head Tube Angle: 70.5
Headset: 1" Victor VP-H692W
Headset Diameter: 1"
Largest Rear Cog: 28
Number of Rear Cogs: 7-speed
Pedals: platform, resin
Rear Cogs: 7-speed, 13 - 28 teeth
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Tourney TY-30
Rear Shock: Not applicable
Rear Shock Travel: Not applicable
Saddle: Fisher SuperSoft
Seat Post Diameter: Unspecified
Seat Tube Angle: 74.3
Seatpost: aluminum micro-adjust
Shift Levers: Grip Shift MRX-200
Smallest Rear Cog: 13
Fork and Suspension
Fork Crown: triple-clamp
Fork Material: aluminum/chromoly, triple-clamp crown
Fork Travel: 2.5" travel
Frame
Frame Angles: 70.5 head, 74.3 seat
Frame Construction: TIG-welded
Frame Tubing Material: chromoly seat tube/hi-tensile steel
Geometry
Chainstay Length: 39.4cm
Fork Rake: 3.70cm
Top Tube Length: 52.5cm
Wheelbase: 98.1cm
Wheels and Hubs
Front Hub: Kung Ten aluminum, nutted
Front Rim: aluminum
Front Tire: knobby
Front Tire Size: 24 x 2.00"
Rear Hub: Kung Ten aluminum, nutted
Rear Rim: aluminum
Rear Tire: knobby
Rear Tire Size: 24 x 2.00"
Spoke Brand: steel, 1.8mm straight gauge
Spoke Gauge: 1.8mm
Spoke Holes: 32-hole
Spoke Material: steel
Spoke Nipples: brass nipples
Spoke Type: straight gauge

What u guys think of that?
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actually that size is probably way to small
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I think it depends on what kind of trails you guys plan to ride. It'll be way better than anything you can find at Walmart. On the other hand, it looks to be a 12 year old bike ( https://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...0Jam&Type=bike ), is hi-ten so it'll be heavy, uses Grip Shift which IMO is harder to use, and uses a crappy fork that probably won't work and will be nearly impossible to replace because it has a 1" headset. If you're just looking at something for really easy fire roads and your choices are this or Walmart, do it. Otherwise, I'd keep looking. And before you jump, make sure the reach isn't too short. Some kids bikes will have a really short top tube, and unless the headtube and seattube angles are optimized to make the reach a little longer, that'll make for a really cramped cockpit. A longer stem makes the reach longer, but can throw off the steering.
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I'd get her to try as many little bikes as possible. If worse comes to worse, and the 26's are all too big, try looking at these:
https://www.brodiebikes.com/2010/bikes/menace.php
https://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=shred_2-4
If you can find it, Kona makes/made a Kula 2-4. It's a lot nicer for XC than the Shred 2-4. It's kinda hard to track down though.
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My buddies girlfriend is in the 5'1" range and he just built her a XS frame from performance.. He paid $79 for the frame.. He says that the frame is a bit small for her and could have gone witht he S instead.. 4"11" would probably fall in that range, you can call and talk to them for sure.. Competitive Cyclists has some Mavic Crossrides (I think that's the name) for $89, Jenson's has a bunch of LX mountain gear for a good price.. Get a Dart 2, or so for the fork.. You've got a great beginner/intermediate trail bike..

If you know a bit about wrenching, you can build a nice bike off that frame for not much more than you are looking to spend..
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the juliana is quite far from a full on race bike. don't take this too harsh but i'll recommend what i feel like, and if you don't like what i say, then keep on moving.
You, sir, are the silver medal winner in the Special Olympics of suggesting bikes!
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Ha. ^--- props for the screen name, for some reason I thought it was clever enough to mention. And obviously I don't spend an excessive amount of time on here getting to know the members, but I did not know Zephyr was a female. Cool... Carry on.
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If your'e comfortable buying onling and doing some minor assembly yourself, take a look at the smallest sizes of both of these. And, ignore the BD haters.

It that doesn't work for you, be patient and look for used on Craigslist - you'll be happier than going to Wallyworld.


https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...lanche_v_3.htm

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...000xi.htm#size
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Yea we went to an actual bike shop yesterday and the size that fit her best was a mens 13". And i got her budget up to $350 to $400. So we got the ball rolling now haha
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