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Old 04-25-11, 02:14 PM
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Another "what tire" thread

Ok, here's the deal...

On my 29er I'm running Kenda Small Block's frt & rear. They are really fast but I don't like them because they are really squirrelly on loose DH corners. These tires also suck HUGE when I'm out of the saddle climbing if the trail is sandy or loose.

My main riding conditions are SoCal hardpack with occasional loose rocks/ sand over hardpack. I NEED a tire that will grip yet not be too slow. I don't race so I don't need a "lightweight" race only tire with tiny but super-grippy knobs that wear out in 1 1/2 hours.

I'm thinking of Maxis (Ignitors), Continental, Michelin, or Hutchinson (Pythons). Any pro's/con's about these?
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Old 04-25-11, 02:29 PM
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I'm using Schwalbe Nobby Nic 29 x 2.35 and they work good in the loose stuff on fast corners.
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Old 04-25-11, 06:10 PM
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i wouldn't use a small block on the front. i'd go with a maxxis crossmark on front, or a nevegal.
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Old 04-26-11, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob P. View Post
they are really squirrelly on loose DH corners. These tires also suck HUGE when I'm out of the saddle climbing if the trail is sandy or loose.
panaracer fire xc.
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Old 04-26-11, 05:31 AM
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SB8 doesn't sound like the tire for you - definitely not a good front tire, but I've been really impressed with the SB8 on the rear of my HT, especially considering the lightweight. It also really benefits from being set up tubeless.

The Ignitor is a decent rear tire. The Schwalbe Racing Ralph also makes for a good rear tire, that's a nice compromise of grip and weight - definitely better for the loose, standing climbs than what you are running. The Panaracer Rampage 2.35 has been one of the go-to front tires, if you're looking for more grip up front - rolls reasonably well for an 800-850g tire.

I have a few of the Rampages and would be willing to trade for one of your SB8's, if you want to try one out.
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Old 04-26-11, 06:27 AM
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Kenda nevagals my choice. Love um
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Old 04-26-11, 12:10 PM
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I ride in very similar conditions and if I had to choose one tire it would be the Geax saguaro. Very fast rolling, pretty good traction (way more than the SB8), , good volume at a true 2.2, and long-wearing. The TNT version is nice if you have a UST setup and want tubeless without sealant or just need really tough sidewalls, though they are kind of heavy. The normal casing verison isn't a lightweight but it's not bad either.

I have used these tires on the back only with a grippier tire up front like a nevegal, both front and rear for long rides and races, and in front with something like a nano in back for fast courses. I like the saguaro in all of these roles. It is hands-down my favorite all-around tire.

I thought Ignitors sucked BTW. Kind of slow rolling, squirmy on hardpack, weakish sidewalls and low volume. Some people love them though.
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Old 11-24-11, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by M_S View Post
I ride in very similar conditions and if I had to choose one tire it would be the Geax saguaro. Very fast rolling, pretty good traction (way more than the SB8), , good volume at a true 2.2, and long-wearing. The TNT version is nice if you have a UST setup and want tubeless without sealant or just need really tough sidewalls, though they are kind of heavy. The normal casing verison isn't a lightweight but it's not bad either.

I have used these tires on the back only with a grippier tire up front like a nevegal, both front and rear for long rides and races, and i n front with something like a nano in back for fast courses. I like the saguaro in all of these roles. It is hands-down my favorite all-around tire.

I thought Ignitors sucked BTW. Kind of slow rolling, squirmy on hardpack, weakish sidewalls and low volume. Some people love them though.
+1, exactly same experience and opinion here...1400 miles on these...Front like new, rear almost flat in the middle (I love to brake hard and in the last momment)
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Nevegals are probably the best tire ever made as far as traction goes, but they are heavy and have a lot of rolling resistance. Have you tried Karma's?
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Old 11-30-11, 05:31 PM
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Can you run a tubeless tire on a regular wheel? Sorry guys I am new to mountain biking.
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Originally Posted by Hou-Tex View Post
Nevegals are probably the best tire ever made as far as traction goes, but they are heavy and have a lot of rolling resistance. Have you tried Karma's?
Dang...how'd I miss this one? I disagree, Tex. I think the Excavator wipes its butt with the Nevegal. Nevegal is a good tire though. I've got them on the Porker...and been using them as a rear tire for a long time now.
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Old 11-30-11, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronsonb View Post
Can you run a tubeless tire on a regular wheel? Sorry guys I am new to mountain biking.

yes, you can, as long as you don't try to make it tubeless. you can have a ghetto tubeless set up, but it is more work and causes more problems than it's worth.

but just to have it as a regular tire, sure.

oh, and don't apologize, it's a good question, and you can't learn unless you ask.
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Old 12-02-11, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ed View Post
Dang...how'd I miss this one? I disagree, Tex. I think the Excavator wipes its butt with the Nevegal. Nevegal is a good tire though. I've got them on the Porker...and been using them as a rear tire for a long time now.
Hey ed, what have you got on the front?
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Old 12-07-11, 08:53 PM
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I thought this thread dead and done. Apparently I was wrong.

I ended up with a set of WTB Exiwolf's F&R. Good grippy tire with a lot of volume. Stuck the SB8's on a mixed set of wheels for a hardtail frame that I'm slowly acquiring parts for.
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Old 12-08-11, 06:45 AM
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Could try a Kenda slant six on the back/excavator up front. You may want something a bit faster up front though. SB8 is a good rear tire, but if you want to climb better then you need something with a bit more grip. Depending on your conditions however there may be no rear tire that can give you enough grip while climbing if it is too sandy or loose.
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Originally Posted by Decatur_Tide View Post
Hey ed, what have you got on the front?
Ever since the Excavator was released, that's all I've been running on the front of my Komodo. (with the exception of trying out some Conti Blk Chili's) It hooks up like mad. I don't have much experience outside of Kenda b/c I was involved in their sponsorship program until they changed the rules on me. Now that I'm not on the program...the first tire I purchased was still a Kenda. (Slant Six)

I've had Nevegals 2.1, 2.35, 2.5, 2.7, Smallblock 8's 2.1, Excavators 2.35, K-Rads 2.35, Klaw's 2.1, Komodos2.1, Knarly's 2.35, and some random Kenda licensed tires.

They make good stuff...I can't complain.

The only other tires I have experience with are:
Panaracer Fire
Conti MtnKing
IRC Mythos (F/R specific and the slick)
WTB Velociraptors (old days)
Bontrager Jones
Tioga Factory
A few other random brands / models.


My favorite setup is still an Excavator F / Excavator R...but I have a little trouble fitting the 2.35 Exc in the rear of my Komodo w/o occasional rubbing, therefore I run an Excavator / Nevegal setup...which is really good too.
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