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Mr IGH

Interesting that this is the number one thread on the first page.

Perhaps responses such as this are the reason this forum is dead. It's my theory that newbies tend to get driven off by the cadre of jerks that hang around here, dominating this sub-forum with their rude comments. Newbies move on to other places such as mtbr.com where there's much more knowledge and it isn't dominated by two or three unfriendly members.

Who's the mod here, why isn't this trash cleaned up?

scyclops

You could be right, I wouldn't know either way. I must say that I mainly come here for entertainment, and every once in a great while I learn something, but you're right - instances of actual useable information are pretty rare. I guess that's what happens when experienced, knowledgeable people get bored with the same old noob posts (what bike should I get? , will I get killed on this Wmart bike? , etc.), but they use these threads to interact with other seasoned mtb vets, purely for fun. Not so nice for the noobs perhaps, but understandable.

cryptid01

It's ironic that you know how a forum should be run but don't have the wherewithal to determine who the moderators are.

Since you seem to be struggling, here's the forumula - It usually begins by someone with a limited scope of mtb experience or understanding making a poorly thought out blanket statement, followed by others disagreeing and using crazy things like physics, vehicle dynamics, and empirical data to defend their POV. Then the inexperienced one gets embarassed and lashes out, only to be summarily mocked. Our neophyte/curmudgeon either then totally ****zes out and goes down in a ball of flames or, alternately, retreats into lurk mode for some time, nurtures their personal grudge, and then only infrequently reemerges to take pot shots at those who embarassed him or her.

Then, occasionally, there are those who take their lumps, realize that maybe they don't know everything about everything after all, give advice accordingly, research and learn, search before posting, send some good natured shots out themselves, have a little fun, and live happily ever after.

Now then, if you would care to discuss (again) the faulty logic that a brake that is capable of locking the front wheel (or more commonly, one that "can throw me over the handlebar") is more than sufficient for all mountain bikers, then by all means, lets.

Mr IGH

I don't bother with discussions here, the forum is dead, a few jerks have taken it over, who needs all the rude childish comments? I wonder how much money is lost by the owners because they don't clean this forum up. A good start would be banning a certain member, he has almost 9500 posts, 50% are pointless, rude attacks....

scyclops

Mr IGH-
Although I might agree with your underlying sentiment, I do think that you're over-reacting a bit. First of all, it is the nature of forums like this that a certain amount of, shall we say, creative verbal bashing just goes with the territory. And secondly, mtn biking is not a sport for the faint of heart, and as such tends to be populated with a fair number of very aggressive, competitive people, which is evidenced in a lot of these discussions. The internet isn't always a warm and welcoming place but, then again, neither is the real world.

crazyotte

Aaaaahahahaha he quoted the mod, then asked who the mod was and demanded that he "clean it up". Classic...

sscyco

I think I heard a foot stomp at the end of this post.

Zephyr11

IGH, how much time do you spend on the mountain bike forum? Come here often enough and you'll realize really quickly that many of the same guys who post, as you call them, "rude childish comments" are generally the more knowledgeable and also more helpful guys on the forum. Keep in mind that we see the same topics come up over and over, and therefore, they're all topics that a simple search would answer. And not only do the same topics come up all the time, but often people use the same blatantly wrong arguments all the time, yet refuse to listen to reason. At some point, the sarcasm has to come out, or this forum would be so boring everyone who knew a damn about anything would just leave. And trust me, when a real question comes up, you cross your fingers and hope that your certain member with 9500 posts is one of the guys answering the question.

Mr IGH

Or just me having fun. The fact that he's a mod instead of being banned tells me this forum isn't of any interest to the owner. Owner must have given up to mtbr.com....

victim

I know who you are talking about and I don't get that vibe at all from him, just the opposite actually. He will call out poor advice and that's a good thing for everyone but he seems to do it pretty respectfully IMO. Anyways, you are certainly entitled to your opinion...

rankin116

Retro grouch? Doesn't that imply you've been around awhile? And if that's true, you don't come off as an adult, you come off as a butt hurt teenager. Sorry, but it's true.

santiago

DMinor is a jerk. Let me tell you about the time some poor schmuck did a photoshop of a bike. He turned around and called the guy's boss telling him how his employee was doing stuff like that on company time!

Jerk.

cryptid01

Hey santiago, I've tried on three occasions to donate to your deal there but it won't take my money. What gives? You guys don't take american dollars any more?

p.s. it's new spreadsheet time, I'll link you

electrik

Discs are a stronger, longer lasting and more consistent brake than rim based brakes.

santiago

That's very nice of you.

I haven't got the spreadsheet invite yet.

ed 

How dare you try to re'rail this thread. Get to pissing and moaning about being offended, or give Santiago some money...but for crap sakes...don't talk about the title anymore.

scyclops

Why are all you people still posting here? Haven't you heard, this forum is dead. (and just for good measure, I'm offended)

dminor 

1.0322 (https://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/exc...ily-converter/). Ya, look how many years we took their Monopoly money at par in "border" towns like Spokane and then how quickly they turn on us. Sheesh.

NYCJohn170

I thought that myself. Somehow, disc just feels better. More like it's in charge at the time when you want to be in total control. That solid reassuring feeling transmitting itself from your hand to your brain.

Daspydyr 

The downside to discs is that they (at least mine) are noisier than V-brakes. I like my bike as quiet as possible so I can sneak up on roadies and wildlife and scare em. The upside is they stop on a dime on steep downhills, that is where I find their value for me. If you need to twist on a downhill switchback, I don't want my bike moving on me.

The mods, like many here are at times sarcastic and short tempered, as I am. I work at home and this is my water cooler conversation for the most part. When dminor makes a statement about people holding onto myths, he isn't attacking religion, he is helping people move on.

Then again you should see the scars I bear from making an off handed comment about RST Forks, Gee Willikers Doug!

NYCJohn170

This ^^^ puts me in mind of my CX, Before I took it to my LBS for a tune up. The V brakes squealed like hell. I loved that. Come up behind tourons walking on the bike path, and give them a little squeal. Much better than a bell. There's nothing quite like the sound of something coming to a screeching halt. But in this case, they were so squeeky, I didn't have to do a full blown speed smear to incite total panic.

Maelstrom 

I have to chuckle this is the first thread I respond to.. I can't believe this is still a question.

They work better under more conditions and sacrifice very little weight. They are even more durable and in the end, when a rim is warped to crap, it doesn't affect the way the bike rides.

Good to see some old faces hanging around

electrik

If you think disc's are noisy you haven't ridden with Shimano's parallel push v-brakes. Using them in the woods goes like this

"Hey boi, u'r brakes sure iz pretty lookin' make em squeal like a pig for me...
Rheee rheee!"

It could get awkward.

dminor 

Good to see you back, sir.

'Bout time . . . .