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Old 11-19-04, 12:39 PM
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Commitment

I saw this on ridemonkey and thought it would work here as well. We were chatting about commitment being the key in getting stuff done on the bike especially when sketchy.



Notice the no touchy of the brakes. This kid is coming into what looks like a good tech section, probably at mach 1, with no brakes. Good on ya
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Old 11-19-04, 01:46 PM
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Point well made (and well illustrated), Mael! Commitment, looseness, confidence and momentum.
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Old 11-19-04, 01:57 PM
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Yep... everytime I've ever crashed in a rock garden, it was because I second-guessed myself and most of the time my speed. I'd scrub a little off and blam! The key is to pick your line and keep up your momentum. Knowing how to follow your way through the course ahead of time vs doing things on the fly makes the difference.
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Old 11-19-04, 02:04 PM
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I tend to do that in roots. We don't get rock gardens out here like south or east. But we have roots (as I am sure you know as similar terrain) that like to eat wheels and spit you out. I tend to get sketched out on those, grab some break and fly through the trees like superman...

Throughout the summer I concentrated on not braking as often as I could, not even with one finger on the brake (this helped two fold, 15 runs on whistler mountain hurts the hands big time gotta find ways to rest them)...I even want up without a front brake to really get me used to the speed a bike is capable of. Learned a lot doing that...but I still sketch out sometimes and grab the brakes haha
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Old 11-19-04, 02:40 PM
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Yes, it takes commitment, skill, courage and sometimes a little craziness.

I am continuously amazed at what kids do today on bikes. Unfortunately, the risks and injuries that are associated with such riding are fairly high. Young kids can take it, but as one gets older, the prospect of serious injury is no longer acceptable. It simply takes too long to recuperate!
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
I tend to do that in roots. We don't get rock gardens out here like south or east. But we have roots (as I am sure you know as similar terrain) that like to eat wheels and spit you out. I tend to get sketched out on those, grab some break and fly through the trees like superman...
Yeah... roots are damn tricky for me too. I think roots are tougher than rock gardens especially when they're wet and slick.
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At first I thought it was sarcasm as I don't fully understand bike intricacies.
So it's better/more effective to go through sections that are tough with commitemnt aka not ready to press the brakes and chicken out?
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Yes..hesitation hurts. I would say 80% of my crashes were because of a distration/slip of concentration. Maybe I didn't commit, maybe the bear that was 3 ft away starttled me. But if you don't committ you aren't offering the concentration needed to pin a section. Obviously work your way up, that section looks a little tech so you don't START there, but you build up your skills and confidence
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Old 11-19-04, 05:53 PM
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I think my riding would improve if I got some body armour. Right now I'm doing small jumps and stuff like that in lycra

The kids got guts, wonder if he made it?
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Old 11-19-04, 05:53 PM
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Roots do suck, I live over in the east (mass to be specific) and I made a half-a**ed trail thats has pleanty of roots and my wheels get easilly in between them and then just hope for the softest landing.
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Old 11-19-04, 05:58 PM
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By the way not to post again, but do you know how old that kid is? He looks like hes only about 12 or so.
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Old 11-19-04, 06:03 PM
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Yeah, he does look young. Remember, the faster you go, the smoother it is, when I see a rockgarden, I just hit it full speed and scope out a line before the run. In Adelaide, there is one track that is one long rockgarden, about 1km long. You hit it faster and it's smooth, it also helped me learn how to keep pedaling over rough terrain.
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Old 11-19-04, 06:49 PM
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I think he did make it....he is supposed to be quite a talen

12...maybe 11 I forget...big head little body gives it away
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Long, narrow ruts are the worst...your wheels slide into them and it just grabs control of the bike. You can't make subtle adjustments in your steering without a front-wheel skid...the only way really is to go fast enough that your momentum stabilizes you.

Rock gardens are pretty bad too, especially when wet...just crash on through!
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You should all read Darhma Bums by Jack Kerouac.

As part of the story, he talks about running down a mountain. When he thinks about it, he can't do it. When he just does it, he flies down the mountain. Be one with the mountain. Taoism, just be, and all that.


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Old 11-19-04, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopper
Yeah, he does look young. Remember, the faster you go, the smoother it is, when I see a rockgarden, I just hit it full speed and scope out a line before the run. In Adelaide, there is one track that is one long rockgarden, about 1km long. You hit it faster and it's smooth, it also helped me learn how to keep pedaling over rough terrain.
What track is that? Montacute?
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Originally Posted by Billy Brown
You should all read Darhma Bums by Jack Kerouac.

As part of the story, he talks about running down a mountain. When he thinks about it, he can't do it. When he just does it, he flies down the mountain. Be one with the mountain. Taoism, just be, and all that.
Sometimes, you have to preplan and then do it... no time to think while you're doing it. Think ahead and execute. Look at the course, find the line and aim for it. It's like that old saying...

Q: How do you stop a caterpillar dead in its tracks?
A: Ask it in which order it moves its legs.
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It's best to have a mind set to make it. If you ride not to crash you most likely will. The kid looks about my sons age 11 or 12. When they crash at that age it's amazing how they get back up and do it again.
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One thing I like to remember, 'As long as I'm rollin' I ain't crashin'!'

Pretty simple but totally true.
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Us young'ns get right up (even tough I'm 16 I'm still young), I really don't like to give up till I git 'r' done unless I've broken a bone or the pain is unbareable, then if I know its olny pain and not a broken bone all I do is walk it off then try it again. Don't know about any of you.
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You know what commitment is? Commitment is my GF, who, after this season of watching me race and get sick and start working my way back, when I said "I think I just want to ride bikes and not race anymore" said "Bull**** Jason, you better ****ing race next year after all the **** we went through this time around and all the money we spent. You better damn make something of it"
Hahahha!
Thats great. Guess Im committed.
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I like the kids helmet- a Giro MadMax II with one of the new paint jobs. Im going to snap me up one of them when i need a new helmet.
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Originally Posted by anthonaut
What track is that? Montacute?
I'm talking about Ando's, but Montacute has hell rockgardens aswell, even Mt Torrens had a section at the start that was a long flat pedal over rocks for a couple hundered metres.
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Originally Posted by BurlySurly
You know what commitment is? Commitment is my GF, who, after this season of watching me race and get sick and start working my way back, when I said "I think I just want to ride bikes and not race anymore" said "Bull**** Jason, you better ****ing race next year after all the **** we went through this time around and all the money we spent. You better damn make something of it"
Hahahha!
Thats great. Guess Im committed.

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DH, on an XC bike. The SC fork and the AIR shock in the back. He has some talent for 11 or 12.
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