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Old 11-20-04, 01:03 AM
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I <3 Bar Ends

I bit the bullet and put some "stubbies" on my Stumpjumper, despite their waning popularity. I gotta say, on a flat bar, I can't see how anyone can ride without them. The extra leverage, hand position and weight over the front do amazing things climbing, and the position is nice through some swoopy singletrack sections. I actually used a set of full length ski bars a customer had me pull off his bike that I just saved and then cut down to about a 2.5" straight bar end. I had them on my singlespeed for the past season and loved them and was always hesitant to move them over to my "nice" bike because of the whole passe factor of bar ends, but what a difference.
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I'm glad to see that function won out over fashion.
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There's no way on earth I could ever ride a flat bar with no bar ends.... I had them on my previous bike (a GT Timberline circa 2000) and they made a world of difference before and after. My new bike has a riser bar, but I'm almost considering going back to a flat bar with bar ends. Not sure what I want to do, though. I suppose it's possible to put bar ends on a riser bar, but it looks kinda dorky.
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I've considered putting curved bar ends on my riser bars, angled down so they protect the brake levers in a crash. I've spent way too much on Hayes replacement parts! Seems like this could work for DH bikes too. They'd also protect your knuckles from branches/trees. They just have to curve enough so they don't snag on stuff.
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Old 11-20-04, 01:27 PM
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If I ride flats, I need the barends ...period. I don't care how it looks
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Old 11-20-04, 03:11 PM
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I don't think it LOOKS bad at all on flat bars... I've not seen many people with riser bars use bar ends though. For the most part I've been happy with my riser bar and haven't felt a dire need for bar ends. However, when I had my GT, I couldn't go more than a week without bar ends..
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Old 11-20-04, 06:42 PM
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BAH! Since when did bar ends become a fashion faux pas? Man, things have changed in the ten years I've been away from this sport.

In my day, you wouldn't THINK of riding an XC bike without bar ends. Of course, we also thought disk brakes were for motorcycles, full suspension was for those wimps who rode up the hill on a chairlift, and 50mm of shock travel was more than any rider would ever want
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Old 11-20-04, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Akak
BAH! Since when did bar ends become a fashion faux pas? Man, things have changed in the ten years I've been away from this sport.
Certainly a rude awakening isn't it? When did fashion ever become fashionable in MTBing anyways?


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In my day, you wouldn't THINK of riding an XC bike without bar ends.
I remember those days too. But I also remember the days before bar-ends and when bar-ends first entered the scene. I admit, I wasn't the first one to rush out and get them but I was happy once I did. They were a cheap and effective performance and comfort upgrade. My first set of barends were Craig Metalcrafts. Those were excellent.


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Of course, we also thought disk brakes were for motorcycles, full suspension was for those wimps who rode up the hill on a chairlift, and 50mm of shock travel was more than any rider would ever want
Don't forget the jokes about people having to steal rollerblade wheels to use in their suspension.
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Old 11-20-04, 06:52 PM
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Well, I can't climb worth shet without barends. Been using barends on flatbars since 1991. Even on my last project, a Dean HT, I found a NOS Scott LF bars on Ebay, you know....the ones with built-in bar ends. Man, these are comfortable...

I remember when barends were called control sticks. There was a company named Control which produced barends and they were called control sticks. But everyone used to call them control sticks, regardless of brand.

Now, I don't understand the concept behind riser bars. I've never used them either so I can't comment.
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
Now, I don't understand the concept behind riser bars. I've never used them either so I can't comment.
I think it's all about handlebar positioning. For some reason, people felt that in order to get the handlebar at the proper height, they had to change the profile of the bar from flat to ones with risers. I guess they never thought to just change the stem. As the years went by and more people were running risers, it turned into a fashion and as a sign of "aggressive MTBing" to be using risers so more and more bikes came spec'ed that way because manufacturers felt the image would sell. And for some reason, bar-ends fell out of favour too. I'm also not sure how that got coupled with the trend in riser bars since risers don't give you any more hand positions than a flat bar. Some might even say it gives you less. Perhaps the trend towards shorter more aggressive rides that don't require people to utilise more hand positions to relieve fatigue but instead promotes always having the hands in the same position near the controls throughout the length of the ride accounts for it.
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My first bar ends, which I still have, by the way, were made by Onza. For those that don't remember, Onza made bar ends, tires (Onza porcupines!), grips, and eventually, pedals. I bought a pair of Onza pedals directly from the company offices in Santa Monica back when Shimano SPDs were the only MTB pedals made. While I was there, they were assembling a set of custom purple pedals for Julie Furtado! I asked if I could get the purple ones, too, and they laughed at me. The did, however, give me a box of assorted Onza stickers which I still have

My bar ends started black but our now all silver except the clamp. The gouges on the outsides are scary deep, too.
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Originally Posted by Akak
My first bar ends, which I still have, by the way, were made by Onza.
I love the Onza barends. I currently have a pair of Titecs on mine which I'm looking to replace with something that has more of an L-bend for more positioning. My wife has Onza barends on her bike and I;ve been tempted to steal them but I think the penalties of doing so might outweigh the benefits.

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I don't think riser bars offer MORE hand positions in the current position, but by moving it forward and back you can theoretically changed the reach of your cockpit quickly and easily. You can also change the ride of the bike for different disciplines. Flats are kind of limited.

Now...first thing that flattys say is...get a bike that fits. Well that doesn't always work. For me it allows a huge range of variable for my hand positions. On my djer the bar is near vertical but slightly forward, my dh bike is 45degrees back. With a 1.5 to 2" rise thats a huge range of adjustments.

I think for fun, I will rebuild my Roast with a flatty and barends. See how a xc bike handles the terrain out here with the seat shoved up my butt and bar ends to make for better climbing..hmmmm...
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
I don't think riser bars offer MORE hand positions in the current position, but by moving it forward and back you can theoretically changed the reach of your cockpit quickly and easily.
I understand the changing of the reach argument. I was just curious as to why at the same time, people decided they no longer needed the extra hand positions offered by bar-ends. Many people claim that because they run risers, they no longer want or need bar-ends which seems a baffling statement to me unless they were somehow using bar-ends to create an elevated hand position that is now taken care of with risers or maybe they were using the barends to increase leverage on the front-end. Either way, I guess they did not care about using the bar-ends to allow them to stretch out more over the bike which is often required for longer distance riding. This is what led to my statement about shorter more aggressive rides becoming the norm.
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Yeah I guess this is a fundemental body position issue. FR, DJ and dh also uses 50 to 70 mm (70 is LONG) length stems. On my bike I want to be naturally over the rear and have to work to be over the front. On xc I suppose that is backwards (at least from the pics I have seen where people really work to stay over the rear of the bike)

I can't see risers offering better leverage or more hand positions over risers. I used my gf's norco for a month (it was big for her) and the bar ends were great for climbing. I just hated how in really narrow section they would get caught more than a normal bald bar
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Originally Posted by Akak
I bought a pair of Onza pedals directly from the company offices in Santa Monica back when Shimano SPDs were the only MTB pedals made. While I was there, they were assembling a set of custom purple pedals for Julie Furtado!
Holy crapola! Look what I just found in my junk box..... Elastomers instead of springs....clever concept but didn't quite do the job. I bought these back in '94...I think...
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Holy crapola! Look what I just found in my junk box..... Elastomers instead of springs....clever concept but didn't quite do the job. I bought these back in '94...I think...
Ahh... the old Onza H.O. pedals. I actually wanted the H.O.X. pedals at one point.



You wouldn't happen to have a set of old Onza H.O. titanium cranks would you?
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Those are the ones. Onza HO's. I thought I was hot stuff when I was confident enough to switch to the black elastomers. Still have a scar on my right elbow from the result, too
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