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Old 11-21-04, 12:05 AM
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Today I was at a jump track in the city and the whole time, like usual, there are these little kiddies who can't jump the two easiest jumps, twoi table tops, and just stand in the run up, cut you off without looking and can't even get up the face of some of the jumps. the really annoying thing is that there are three tracks, a beginner, where these little pricks should be, and intermediate and an expert.

Well anyway, after being cut off a million times, I see a clear in the traffic of little idiots and I go for the run up for the two table tops and just as I hit the face of the jump, a little prick just walks through the 5m gap between the middle of the two table tops, so as a reaction I turned on the face of the jump, this makes me whip it out hard and land almost at rightangles to what I should and bang. My derailleur hanger has the threads in the hole that the derailleur goes into break and the derailleur goes into my wheel. So now I need a new chain, a few spokes, hanger and probably a new derailleur.

Mummy and daddy take the kids to this place so they can ride, but they don't care which track they are on, and the parents get annoyed with us for going too fast near there little precious ones. Oh wait, I just go fast enought o make it to the landing of the jump.

*Rant over... for now*

So what I want to know is, do any of you guys have little 5,6,7 etc year olds get in your way where they shouldn't be?
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I just plow into them, they should know better than to stop at the face or the run in to the jump. There should be a safety test to determine if you are skilled to run all the courses in an area.
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next time just hit him...if he cant even remotely perform on that course, he has no excuse to be there.

Pain is a far better teacher than words.
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Better to yell in their faces first. If you injure them, you may have a lawsuit or somthing on your hands. Just blow their helmets (assuming they are wearing them) right off their little "precious" heads, yelling at them. (Maybe throw in a few "four letter words, maybe even a 5 letter word [I'm sure you can guess what] That always gets the point across).
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Yeah it is their fault if you hit them. But we really need to start taking turns clearing the area for the other guys when we go there hopper. But i was clearing the area today when it happened- sometimes you just cant stop it.
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Old 11-21-04, 03:11 AM
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Too true, little ********
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Old 11-21-04, 06:36 AM
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I have a friend who is healing a busted shoulder from that same thing. He was going hard into a big set when a guy just walked out in front of him.The idiot just was'nt looking where he was going. My friend was going to Cali. to test bikes w/ Specialized at the end of the month, now thats all on hold just because of some idiot.
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Who the hell walks into the gap of a jump? As much as this sucks you did the right thing. Not yelling as other members have said. And deffinatly not plowing through them as Kona said. We had some nice jumps in my town a few years back. But when someone gets hurt it changed. His father was a lawyer and his little precious got hurt and he said he'd press charges unless the jumps were destroyed.

Which still makes no sense to me. Who'd he press charges against? The jump itself? Probably the town. But the kid should have not been so stupid. Dirt Jumping IS dangerous and you should always assume that there is the possibility of injury and not be such a p*ssy about it and have your father sue. Damn little bastards. The worst thing is the kid wasn't a local. Some kid up from a state south of NH (can't remember which) So he's stupidity and his fathers b*tchy, lawyer like attitude towards stuff, ruined our jumps.

BTW, a b*tchy lawyer like attitude is the "Sue everything that walks and then somethings that don't"
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When I used to skate aggressive in-line, little bastards were always blocking the lines, trying to be cool, but failing miserably. I would get so pissed off at them that I wanted to just smash into them.
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Old 11-21-04, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by trekkie820
When I used to skate aggressive in-line, little bastards were always blocking the lines, trying to be cool, but failing miserably. I would get so pissed off at them that I wanted to just smash into them.
Don't thats what gets places shut down. When little *****'s get hurt. I agree those little kids shouldn't be in places above there skill level. But hurting them won't solve anything. It'll most likely backfire and you'll have no place to ride/skate.
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Old 11-21-04, 07:23 AM
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Oh, I know. I said I wanted to, I never did. I usually had to swerve, which a lot of times led to my getting out of balance and falling. I mean, they had a damn beginner area.
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Some little kids are oblivious to things like 'beginner areas' What you should do is ask him to go to the area that he belongs. I know it sounds stupid. But its better then hurting them or yourself. (on a crash caused by them)
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Please, please, whatever you do, do NOT run into them if you can avoid it. There are far better and safer ways to deal with the issue.

First, most kids that young are there with their parents. Find them and tell them how dangerous their kid's actions are. Speak rationally and calmly and come from the angle that you're concerned about the kid's safety.

Next, if the parents aren't around, take the kid individually and show him exactly what he did wrong. Most kids respect authority and if you speak like an adult, they'll obey you like one.

Third, if none of that works, find the owner/operator of the track and talk to him about how dangerous it is. No one wants a lawsuit or injury so they'll do something.

The track near my house is city operated and had a mountain bike cop there most of the time. Any time there were issues with a little kid, the rider could talk to the cop and the cop would talk to the parent or kid.

Finally, if all that fails, find another track. It's far better to move on than to intentionally hit someone on a bike. You could end up permanently injuring the kid and ruining your life with a serious criminal charge.
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Its the way of the world, SUE FOR WHATEVER YOU CAN GET. I worry that the great trails in my area will be closed because of an incident w/ a hiker or horse. Even though we may want to, if we hurt someone it causes big problems for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Akak
Please, please, whatever you do, do NOT run into them if you can avoid it. There are far better and safer ways to deal with the issue.

First, most kids that young are there with their parents. Find them and tell them how dangerous their kid's actions are. Speak rationally and calmly and come from the angle that you're concerned about the kid's safety.

Next, if the parents aren't around, take the kid individually and show him exactly what he did wrong. Most kids respect authority and if you speak like an adult, they'll obey you like one.

Third, if none of that works, find the owner/operator of the track and talk to him about how dangerous it is. No one wants a lawsuit or injury so they'll do something.

The track near my house is city operated and had a mountain bike cop there most of the time. Any time there were issues with a little kid, the rider could talk to the cop and the cop would talk to the parent or kid.

Finally, if all that fails, find another track. It's far better to move on than to intentionally hit someone on a bike. You could end up permanently injuring the kid and ruining your life with a serious criminal charge.

I'd agree.

Hopper, this sounds kinda wierd, but are you sure the kid knew where he was walking? Did he intentionally walk through the tables to be "cool" or was he just trying to cross over to the other side?
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lol same thing used to happen when i skateboarded...little ******* getting in the lines and screwing up your sets....i used to fire my board into their ankles "accidentally" mid trick so theyd learn to get the **** outta the way....dunno what youd throw at them from your bike....maybe toss a sand filled waterbottle at them....carry some tennis balls in your bag to throw...
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I've yelled at people before to get out of the way, I've had them as I'm going past turn right into me. I didn't mean a full on plow into just enough to clip and knock the person backwards. Alot of the times bruises send a message better than words do.
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Well.. I have some annoying little kids that live near me, but they dont really get in the way when I'm trying to do anything. One of them is pretty cool, he came on a pretty long ride with my neighbor and I once.

Anyway, the only jump I have set up is a little dirt one in the woods in our yard, and I dont usually use it when anyone is over, so..
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The kids there just dont have any idea. They cross the track/jumps without looking and ride the tracks backwards.

We have tried telling them not to but they still do it, even the older guys. Thats when we get angry!
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One example of how stupid these kids are is:
They just stand on top of a tabletop which is right before a berm, you tell them to move, they do nothing, finally out of frustration you shout at them telling them that it's not safe just sitting in the middle of the track. They then finally move off the table top and stand on the berm.

Also yesterday another incident which almost ended badly was, there are a set of doubles which you can roll which are about1.5m high. Well as I was going race pace over them, there is an idiot about 9years old who was lieing on a skateboard between two fo the jumps, luckily I got my brakes on just in time.
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Yeah that kid. That was so funny. The problem is that there are so many of them so you can't keep track of them all- they should all just stick to the beginner track.
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UPDATE:

Just got back from the LBS where I got my bike and they are doing their best to look after me. But this stupid kid is still costing me at least $140 AU. He is also making me downgrade my derailleur to a Deore. I had one of these on my bighit, but the shifting was never as crisp as that of the XT I have been usiong for the last month.

So I'm getting a Deore Derailleur -$90
Sachs PC69 chain -$50
and I might need a new hanger, apparently the one on my bike is really expensive, so he's checking it for damage and re tapping the thread. When I brought the bike into the store Matt (one of the mechanics and the guy who always looks after me) was shocked at what happened to the derailleur and wheel. He said that I had the worst spoke damage and derailleur damage he had ever seen, and he has worked there for a long time and at races. I have 13gauge spokes and when he was testing their tension, he just touched two of them and they snapped, and another 2 have 30degree kinks in them. Also the derailleur had parts of it literally sliced off by the spokes and a huge dent which nearlly went through the parallelogram.

What pisses me off is the price of parts in Australia. I'm getting free labour and spokes because Matt's nice and the bikes new. However the parts that I'm getting are being discounted about 15% but they are still expensive because in Aus everything seems WAY expensive. Even the Aussie internet sellers are way more expensive than the stuff that American internet dealers advertise.
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Bummer. At least we can make key CHAINS now out of your old chain

The stuff here is so expensive because there aren't enough people riding.
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Originally Posted by rios
Better to yell in their faces first. If you injure them, you may have a lawsuit or somthing on your hands. Just blow their helmets (assuming they are wearing them) right off their little "precious" heads, yelling at them. (Maybe throw in a few "four letter words, maybe even a 5 letter word [I'm sure you can guess what] That always gets the point across).
Hmmm, you could easily have a counter lawsuit. Just say: "Where were the parents when I hit their kid, shouldn't they have been there to make sure he was out of harms way? That was an expert course, unless that kid was very talented, he had no reason to be there."
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Mate, parts prices here suck! That's why I started a little side business importing from the US. I have titanium and aluminium derailleur bolts that I sell - no one believes me when I say everyone should have one. They bust before your hanger does, which makes them a bargain. I'm not trying to advertise my business, but if you think this may prevent a similar problem, let me know. We were all little kids once too, just not as dumb as the ones you encountered.
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