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Old 02-20-12, 02:10 PM
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well sure he could get by without em but i want him to enjoy riding, not be pissed all day when his rims are caked in mud. happened saturday, trail was wet and mudy, the people with rim brakes were hating life.

he could wait forever but he doesnt want to increase his budget. he's not sure if he will stick with it so he doesn't wanna fork out to much cash starting out. i cant talk any sense into him.
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Originally Posted by samburger View Post
I just think it's silly to view recent technological advances in mountain biking* (or ANY technology...no, you won't die if you lose your cell phone) as essential just because they suddenly exist. People got along just fine (& still do get along just fine) shredding the gnarz with rim brakes.

*I know disc brakes aren't a recent invention, but they've only just become mainstream on mountain bikes.
Newer, better technologies displace older technologies. It happens. If you can have discs over rims and it's in your budget, it shouldn't be a tough decision.
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Originally Posted by pablosnazzy View Post
crazy talk! there is no way you can tell me people ever rode bikes with less than 4 inches of travel and disc brakes and dropper seats.
Sure, and we rode motocross bikes back in the late '60s-early '70s with air cooling, drum brakes and 4" of travel and we got by - - but life is soooooo much better now in the world of off-road motorcycles because companies and riders embraced change and progressive refinement. What the hell is not to like about anything that will improve bikes and make the biking experience better?

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Newer, better technologies displace older technologies. It happens. If you can have discs over rims and it's in your budget, it shouldn't be a tough decision.
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Technically, you could pull up a picture of a Klunker and point out that people used to ride those. But it is a lot easier to ride a modern bike with today's technology. I'd argue it's more fun too, though maybe I'm just spoiled.
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Old 02-20-12, 07:38 PM
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so anyways... has anyone seen a 29er disc on sale or used?
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
Sure, and we rode motocross bikes back in the late '60s-early '70s with air cooling, drum brakes and 4" of travel and we got by - - but life is soooooo much better now in the world of off-road motorcycles because companies and riders embraced change and progressive refinement. What the hell is not to like about anything that will improve bikes and make the biking experience better?
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i am a guy with a 6" travel bike, disc brakes and a dropper seat as my main bike and ride it on EVERYTHING no matter how much"overkill" that bike is, and if everyone could afford a bike like that, i would tell them to get one. however, i also believe you don't *need* all those nice things and can have a great time on a "technologically inferior" bicycle which was a bad ass bicycle 8 years ago. remember when 4 inches of travel was a "downhill" bike? i think we tend to get spoiled with what we have now.

and, we are talking about brakes, not really comfort. sure disc brakes kick ass, but i don't see them as mandatory, v brakes work fine. if he is stuck on $400, he may have to make concessions.

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so anyways... has anyone seen a 29er disc on sale or used?
craigslist...bikeshops with demo bikes...you may have to call around outside the state, but they are out there. what makes it difficult is the $400 limit. not impossible, but waaay more difficult.

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Old 02-21-12, 08:52 AM
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agreed. i'm on top of craigslist but no luck there. we dont have a lot of bike shops in our area, i've been to the 3 we have in a one hours driving distance. the search continues.
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Originally Posted by ESW116 View Post
If you can have discs over rims and it's in your budget, it shouldn't be a tough decision.
Yeah, & if we're talking about the grand scheme of mountain biking where the vast majority of you are pretty well off, then that's perfect advice. However, we aren't. We're talking about a guy whose budget is $400 set in stone for a 29er with disc brakes.

If someone can't have fun without disc brakes, far be it for me to tell them not to be patient & wait for something they'll love. However, I think people place way too much weight on how important mechanical disc vs mechanical rim really is (because for $400 it would be one hell of a deal if he got hydro's).

Another thing to keep in mind is that assuming this is a local friend, you guys live in Kentucky. I've never been to Paducah, but if it's anything like Bowling Green then the terrain is pretty similar to where I live, & disc brakes have never been essential here (though after a year on rim brakes, I do appreciate the luxury of hydro's).


I'm just saying tell your friend to keep an open mind & not view current trends & advances in technology as essential just because he wants to look like a pro, like so many people around here seem to do (geographic "around here", not this forum). There's nothing wrong with being a n00b for a while. I've been doing it for two years & I'm still having a blast.
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Old 02-21-12, 10:21 PM
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you do realize they make mechanical disc brakes right? they're not all hydos. i havent got to ride near bowling green yet but the trail we ride the most is the canal loop at LBL, it's pretty a pretty serious trail. not a mountain but lots of large roots and very steep "ditches" to cross. when water and mud are on the trail, rim brakes arent the best option. what are yall's thoughts on this bike:

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...y/29point1.htm
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Old 02-21-12, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by samburger View Post
I think people place way too much weight on how important mechanical disc vs mechanical rim really is (because for $400 it would be one hell of a deal if he got hydro's).
Well aware, thanks

BD bikes are generally well-liked. Some people say no because newer bikers are often attracted to them (for good reason...they're good deals for sure) but they might not know as well what to look for to help determine if the geometry works for them, so they could end up with a great bike that just doesn't fit them right. But they (as a collective whole...can't speak for that bike in particular) are solid bikes.
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Originally Posted by samburger View Post
BD bikes are generally well-liked by the shills for this BF advertiser.
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If I wasn't on my phone at work I could probably find at least a few testimonies from now-mods & other respected members saying that BD bikes are at least worth looking into for the components, if not the frames as well. I like to think I'm usually good about not giving misinformed advice.
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^^ I'm giving you a bad time. Do keep in mind, though, that especially a 'now-mod' might be propping a paying advertiser on the Forums .
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Good point, I'll have to keep an eye on Ed & his Jamis endorsements
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If you are on a realllly tight budget and having a hard time finding something used then BD can actually have pretty good deals. I got a Motobecane Fantom 29er for about $390 last fall to use for pretty much everything when I go home to visit my parents.

Stem, seatpost, handlebars were all crap. Headset, BB, cranks, cassette were all only decent. However, it also came with an Rock Shox Dart 3 fork, XT rear derailleur, Deore front, Deore shifters, Avid BB5 disc brakes, WTB FX28 rims (with decent hubs/spokes), WTB tires, WTB Speed V saddle (which I'm convinced isn't the normal one, which I have on my main bike..seems cheaper, but whatever =P). For the price it was a killer deal (even BD doesn't usually have such good deals).

I wouldn't ride it like I ride my main bike, but it does pretty well on the trails. I remember when I was looking they also had some decent looking 29er single speeds for relatively little money (though some were not convertible to geared, so watch out if you do go that direction).
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Hey guys I need some help picking out the right bike to transition into mountain biking. I am 24 years old, 6'2" at 220lbs. I work out heavily so I'm pretty solid 220lbs but would like to lean up even more, which is one perk of riding. I am transitioning from freestyle bmx riding which I've did for years. I am looking for a bike to use on gravel and trails mostly with light road use. From a bmx background I'd like a strong frame that can take a little punishment from small jumps and hops, a nice frame is more important than overall parts since I can build on it. I need advice on what type of bike and even specific bikes. I want to stay around a $600 budget. From what I've read it seems like a hardtail would be the best on this budget. A few bikes I have looked at are these...

Diamondback Response Comp:
http://www.amazon.com/Diamondback-Re...0213066&sr=1-9

Giant Revel 0:
http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/cntry...tem171382.html

Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc:
http://thebike-shop.com/product/12sp...c-105429-1.htm

I'm not limited to these bikes they are just some of the prominent brands. At this price range would I be better off just watching Craigslist than buying an entry level new bike? Any advice is greatly appreciated guys.
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Wow, revived a dead thread
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In need of a bike

Howdy folks,

I am a super newbie when it comes to cycling. I just have experience from when I was a kid using my bike to get around town on. I want to get a bike for trail riding here in southern IL and beyond. The trails I want to ride are that of nature around woods and stuff so I figure a mountain bike would be my best options, right?

I just need help in finding a better bike. I am willing to drop $200 or $300 on my first. I am 6'5" tall and 250 LBS. I am not exactly fat but I do have a gut (mainly from beer drinking, >_< hahaha).

Anyone got any good suggestions for me?
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At that price point, I'd go with St. Louis craigslist. Best to have a friend that knows bikes when trolling CL though.

Maybe bump your budget up a bit and see if the StL. Performance has a Fuji Nevada 6.0. 2011 Nevada 5.0 is on their site for on sale for $300, maybe they have one or can get one there for ya.
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Originally Posted by jonathdo View Post
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Why fail? :-\

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At that price point, I'd go with St. Louis craigslist. Best to have a friend that knows bikes when trolling CL though.

Maybe bump your budget up a bit and see if the StL. Performance has a Fuji Nevada 6.0. 2011 Nevada 5.0 is on their site for on sale for $300, maybe they have one or can get one there for ya.
I am able to up the budget up a bit if needed

I am totally new over this stuff so I just want something that is going to be comfortable for me to ride since I am rather big. I will check them out Thanks for the suggestion.
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Hi Shawn,

If you're the least bit mechanically inclined, I have these recommendations:

1) The Motobecane 3 HT ~ $270
www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/3ht_new_xii.htm

2) The Dawes Haymaker ~ $330
www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/hay1000xi.htm

*The Haymaker has a good reputation and is more highly recommended.

Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
Hi Shawn,

If you're the least bit mechanically inclined, I have these recommendations:

1) The Motobecane 3 HT ~ $270
www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/3ht_new_xii.htm

2) The Dawes Haymaker ~ $330
www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/hay1000xi.htm

*The Haymaker has a good reputation and is more highly recommended.

Good Luck!

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What kind of cut are you getting from bikesdirect?
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Here goes another this vs that question for you. I'll be buying a ss 29er in the dry near future, but I'm not sure which one. I've got it narrowed down to a trek marlin ss 29er or a redline monocog 29er. Any options on either one? I've test ridden both bikes and I like them both.
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How sure are you, its best to buy the best possible bike upfont, since you will never be able to get the performance/dollar after the bike is bought by upgrading parts. I would try to stretch to budget at least to the $450 range.

check bikeisland, it's returns/seconds from bikedirect. Wait for a 29er (29" wheel) version of something like this
http://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=2292
Make sure to check proper size for these things by looking at bikedirect, i recommend you email customer service about sizing.

Don't let any naysayers put down motobecane/bikesdirect. It's very hard to find as quality bike for the same price anywhere.

Look at the front/read derailleur, and compare prices against other bikes, including used bikes CL. I bet you can't find something with rockshox dart2 + rear deore xt derailleur for $500 delivered with a warranty.


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I am able to up the budget up a bit if needed

I am totally new over this stuff so I just want something that is going to be comfortable for me to ride since I am rather big. I will check them out Thanks for the suggestion.
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Howdy folks,

I am a super newbie when it comes to cycling. I just have experience from when I was a kid using my bike to get around town on. I want to get a bike for trail riding here in southern IL and beyond. The trails I want to ride are that of nature around woods and stuff so I figure a mountain bike would be my best options, right?

I just need help in finding a better bike. I am willing to drop $200 or $300 on my first. I am 6'5" tall and 250 LBS. I am not exactly fat but I do have a gut (mainly from beer drinking, >_< hahaha).

Anyone got any good suggestions for me?
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