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ed 10-07-11 07:28 AM

Diamonback Dreamliner (4x / DJ)

it’s a Mission with super-low stand-over height and 4 inches of travel

headtube angle (with 100mm fork) is 68 degrees, and it will have 142x12mm rear thru-axle compatibility

http://www.bicycling.com/sites/defau...Dreamliner.jpg

ed 10-07-11 07:30 AM

Santa Cruz Blur TRc 5" trail bike:
http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/...-details02.jpg

ed 10-07-11 07:34 AM

Carbon Session 9.9
http://www.bicycling.com/sites/defau...ssion9.9_0.jpg

ed 10-07-11 07:35 AM

WSD Lush
http://www.bicycling.com/sites/defau...mages/Lush.jpg

dsprehe89 10-07-11 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ed (Post 13331651)

I didn't even know there were brake rotors that small for bike:eek:! What is that thing used for? Obviously not stoping!

Dannihilator 10-07-11 08:28 AM

If you look carefully at the front you will notice that there is rotors.

dsprehe89 10-07-11 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dannihilator (Post 13331886)
If you look carefully at the front you will notice that there is rotors.

I saw the rotors. Thats why I said that I had never seen rotors that small before. But what is that bike used for? Those things can't have that much stopping power with that small of rotors (granted, the rear rotor looks to be about your average 160mm).

rankin116 10-07-11 09:20 AM

I bet the front is 160 too, it's just very hard to see. Their website has all the build kits with 160s.

dsprehe89 10-07-11 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rankin116 (Post 13332129)
I bet the front is 160 too, it's just very hard to see. Their website has all the build kits with 160s.

I think you are right. When I get really close to the pic I can see the whole thing. Before I could only see the little part that was noticeable because the fork was in the background. I was thinking it was some type of new 2" rotor or something :lol:. I was all like ":wtf: how is that ever going to stop you" But now that you mention it, I thing you are right and it is just really really hard to see the rest of it cause of the background. Thanks for clarification on that.

dminor 10-07-11 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by samburger (Post 13330548)
Hm, makes sense. Never amazes me how much thought really goes into the engineering of a bicycle.

I bet you meant to say "Never ceases to amaze me . . ." ;).

ed 10-07-11 10:50 AM

Maybe he's a genius and thinks bike tech is simple.

20grit 10-07-11 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dsprehe89 (Post 13331733)
I didn't even know there were brake rotors that small for bike:eek:! What is that thing used for? Obviously not stoping!

The rotors have been photoshopped out. A pretty crappy job of it no less. I'm not certain why anyone would do such things though.

ed 10-07-11 11:12 AM

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dminor 10-07-11 11:15 AM

Ahhh . . . it's those new Ghost Rotors. Wafer-thin metallized ultra-high-temp polycarbonate blend that is nearly transparent and gives brakes more power as the heat up, instead of fading.

ed 10-08-11 07:29 PM

I'm getting sick of posting 29er stuff...but it's growing quickly enough that there's new stuff coming out all the time:


Fox 34 series:
http://www.foxracingshox.com/filter....=34&ref=topnav

MXBoy11 10-08-11 08:02 PM

Man that Bandit Two9 is soooooo hot

samburger 10-08-11 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed (Post 13332564)
Maybe he's a genius and thinks bike tech is simple.

Duh, otherwise I'd be on here asking you guys questions every time I took on a project beyond my mechanical abilities.

Speaking of, does anyone have a picture of the proper assembly of the Diatech Hombre brake arms? I can't figure out how to attach this cable anchor to save my life!:lol:

ed 10-08-11 08:51 PM

I think I found it

LesterOfPuppets 10-08-11 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by samburger (Post 13329178)
That Honzo has an interesting look, if nothing else. I'm used to seeing curved top tubes & down tubes in mountain bikes of the last few years, but I think that's the first frame I've seen with only a curved seat tube.

Gary Fisher was all hot for curved seat tubes and short rear ends briefly in the early '90s:

http://mombat.org/91MontareSide.JPG

LesterOfPuppets 10-08-11 09:22 PM

I'm stoked about Jamis' steel hardtail action. I gotta get out and test ride them puppies. 68° HT seems a little slack on the 650b.

I'd still have to hit the lottery to consider purchasing one, well maybe except for the Dragon Sport, but I dunno if I could hack pedaling 31 lbs of bike around with these scrawny legs.

ed 10-08-11 09:58 PM

I was just thinking that the Dragon was perfect compared to the Nemesis with a 71' HTA.

LesterOfPuppets 10-08-11 10:07 PM

Pretty drastic jump from the 72° of the Dragon 29s. I'm gonna have to see if I can get myself on a 15" of each and compare/contrast.

samburger 10-09-11 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed (Post 13338219)

Oh good, so I did install it the right way:thumb:

ed 10-09-11 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 13338449)
Pretty drastic jump from the 72° of the Dragon 29s. I'm gonna have to see if I can get myself on a 15" of each and compare/contrast.

Yeah, for sure. IMO, it's a totally different bike. I think naming it the Dragon was a mistake. The Dragon 26/ 29 are geo'd like XC bikes. The 650b is geo'd more like an AM bike. I'd say it's about perfect for what I'd ride as a HT on trails. I'm still hoping for a beefier version of the SixFifty Bx dually that you could build in the upper-20's to 30# range for an Aggro-"B".

samburger 10-09-11 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 13338226)
Gary Fisher was all hot for curved seat tubes and short rear ends briefly in the early '90s:

[pic]

I was going to say it looked kind of retro, but I didn't have any examples to back it up & haven't been around MTB's long enough to use the term "retro" without sounding like a fool.

ed 10-09-11 09:13 PM

It's one of those geometry things. The head angle is slacker than a normal XC bike. Remember the post from Doug? The tubes are smaller b/c they're steel. The wheelset is taller than a 26" which makes them "appear" leaner than a short and stocky 26". Those two things make it look sorta retro.

The feel of it "should" be interesting though. Much less harsh than my fat tubed 7005 Komodo, but only a 1/2 degree steeper HA. Taller wheelset should make it roll a bit easier over the chop...yet not a full-on 29 to give it that sluggish 29'er feel.



Here's a review of it:

http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/int...is-dragon-650b


I know that I've read MBAction and various other rags including this review referring to aggressive riding as "Aggro / Agro". I challenge them to come up with the orig of that term...b/c I made it up back in the mid 2000's when I started saying "AggroXC".


I want my daggum credit!

samburger 10-09-11 11:19 PM

^That Dragon has a nice 'no BS' look to it.

LesterOfPuppets 10-09-11 11:28 PM

Aggro was in regular use in skater circles as far back as the 80s. Probably Rob Roskopp's fault that MTB mag hacks are using it. :)

ed 10-14-11 09:07 PM

Not new to 2012, but new to me. I didn't know they had a suitable replacement for the PIKE. Too bad no coil.

Argyle RCT:
Argyle RCT is a 140mm travel version of the Argyle.


Adding the 140mm chassis to the Argyle lineup, this fork gives you the precision to dig deeper, go higher and nail the landing so smoothly all you’ll hear is silence.
Updates for Model Year 2011
• New option for “Slopestyle” at 140mm of travel featuring aluminum upper tubes.
• Features new Maxle Lite.
• New BoXXer red color option.
• Lighter weight.


- Argyle RCT 100mm, White, (includes - pump)
- Argyle RCT 140mm, BoXXer Red (includes - pump)


Travel 80/100mm or 140mm
Weight 2016g (4.44 lbs)
Damping Motion Control
Available Springs Solo Air
Adjustments External Rebound, Low Speed Compression, Tooled Floodgate, Spring Via Air Pressure


http://www.sram.com/sites/default/fi...t-large-en.jpg

Zephyr11 10-15-11 07:01 AM

Oh my God, I want one. Stupid grad school eating all my money! Someone should trade me one for a Domain haha.


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