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ed 10-08-11 09:58 PM

I was just thinking that the Dragon was perfect compared to the Nemesis with a 71' HTA.

LesterOfPuppets 10-08-11 10:07 PM

Pretty drastic jump from the 72° of the Dragon 29s. I'm gonna have to see if I can get myself on a 15" of each and compare/contrast.

samburger 10-09-11 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by ed (Post 13338219)

Oh good, so I did install it the right way:thumb:

ed 10-09-11 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 13338449)
Pretty drastic jump from the 72° of the Dragon 29s. I'm gonna have to see if I can get myself on a 15" of each and compare/contrast.

Yeah, for sure. IMO, it's a totally different bike. I think naming it the Dragon was a mistake. The Dragon 26/ 29 are geo'd like XC bikes. The 650b is geo'd more like an AM bike. I'd say it's about perfect for what I'd ride as a HT on trails. I'm still hoping for a beefier version of the SixFifty Bx dually that you could build in the upper-20's to 30# range for an Aggro-"B".

samburger 10-09-11 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 13338226)
Gary Fisher was all hot for curved seat tubes and short rear ends briefly in the early '90s:

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I was going to say it looked kind of retro, but I didn't have any examples to back it up & haven't been around MTB's long enough to use the term "retro" without sounding like a fool.

ed 10-09-11 09:13 PM

It's one of those geometry things. The head angle is slacker than a normal XC bike. Remember the post from Doug? The tubes are smaller b/c they're steel. The wheelset is taller than a 26" which makes them "appear" leaner than a short and stocky 26". Those two things make it look sorta retro.

The feel of it "should" be interesting though. Much less harsh than my fat tubed 7005 Komodo, but only a 1/2 degree steeper HA. Taller wheelset should make it roll a bit easier over the chop...yet not a full-on 29 to give it that sluggish 29'er feel.



Here's a review of it:

http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/int...is-dragon-650b


I know that I've read MBAction and various other rags including this review referring to aggressive riding as "Aggro / Agro". I challenge them to come up with the orig of that term...b/c I made it up back in the mid 2000's when I started saying "AggroXC".


I want my daggum credit!

samburger 10-09-11 11:19 PM

^That Dragon has a nice 'no BS' look to it.

LesterOfPuppets 10-09-11 11:28 PM

Aggro was in regular use in skater circles as far back as the 80s. Probably Rob Roskopp's fault that MTB mag hacks are using it. :)

ed 10-14-11 09:07 PM

Not new to 2012, but new to me. I didn't know they had a suitable replacement for the PIKE. Too bad no coil.

Argyle RCT:
Argyle RCT is a 140mm travel version of the Argyle.


Adding the 140mm chassis to the Argyle lineup, this fork gives you the precision to dig deeper, go higher and nail the landing so smoothly all you’ll hear is silence.
Updates for Model Year 2011
• New option for “Slopestyle” at 140mm of travel featuring aluminum upper tubes.
• Features new Maxle Lite.
• New BoXXer red color option.
• Lighter weight.


- Argyle RCT 100mm, White, (includes - pump)
- Argyle RCT 140mm, BoXXer Red (includes - pump)


Travel 80/100mm or 140mm
Weight 2016g (4.44 lbs)
Damping Motion Control
Available Springs Solo Air
Adjustments External Rebound, Low Speed Compression, Tooled Floodgate, Spring Via Air Pressure


http://www.sram.com/sites/default/fi...t-large-en.jpg

Zephyr11 10-15-11 07:01 AM

Oh my God, I want one. Stupid grad school eating all my money! Someone should trade me one for a Domain haha.


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