Leviathan

and also what are the other two settings on the Fox Triad Shocks and when would you use them?

Maelstrom 

propedal is a compression valving that removes the small bump sensativity, giving the illusion or reality of non bob pedalling. It works but takes some of the plushness away. The shock only completely activates during big hits (rocks etc.)

I would assume compressiong and rebound (I could be wrong but those are common) you set them up based on weight and how you like your bike to react. I like my bike plush with negative travel that doesn't bottom out easily (non-linear) so I set the comression a few clicks in (on my shock) turn the preload loose and turn the rebound up a little higher than most (I am a fat ass...my bike won't buck me like normal sized people)

Leviathan

First of all let me say this: I wish that Maelstrom was my next door neighbor, he always has the answers to my questions. Second let me clarify my original question: Other than Pro Pedal pedal assist-dampening, the Fox triad shock has a setting for lockout and one for fully open. What does the fully open one mean? Thanks.

-Stretch-

im quite pleased that mael is canadian....makes me feel warm and squishy that theres a dude that is that good and funny and lives in the icy north...haha

cheers mael

Maelstrom 

Warm and squishy........

I don't know what the triad is (I can't find a reference on the sit). I have never heard of it. The control it might be refering to is the propedal valving control (which I didn't know existed) to control whether it is REALLY sensative to small bumps, or is essentially locked out

Raiyn

Means it acts like a non-platform style shock, like the older Fox Float R's etc and reacts to whatevers thrown at it.

incipit

Damn well better than Hot and Hard I'll say!

bac

If my memory serves, the "triad" is only available on Specialized bikes. I remember reading about it a year or so ago. It's a three-way switch: fully open, fully locked, or pro-pedal - but made exclusively for Specialized.

serious

I have a Fox Float RL Pro Pedal and (if I remember the manual correctly) it has 3 setups:

Fully Locked - I never lock it

Normal - where the pro pedal compression valve works as Mael explained. However, I understand that it is effective for light riders mostly.

Locked - only opens on very big hits

Maelstrom 

Cool. Learn something new everyday

Raiyn

You remember incorrectly. The three settings are Open, Pro Pedal, and Lock Out

bac

FYI, here's the link to the Fox (pdf file) site. Again, the triad seems to be a Specialized only application - @ least for it's first year:

Fox Triad

shimano_cranker

So Pro Pedal basically only activates the full range on big hits? Therefore making your ride more efficient by reducing travel?

serious

Maybe you are right, but you seem to be describing the Triad version. Let me explain my interpretation of the manual. My manual says that the lockout lever can be used 2 ways:

A) First way (lever is down and at 45 degree angle relative to the shock)

1) Normal position is 45 degrees counter clockwise to shock (I assume that ProPedal is in effect)
2) Locked position is 45 degrees clockwise to shock (move lever clockwise 90 degrees from normal)

B) Second way (lever is in line with the shock)

1) Normal position is down (again I assume that ProPedal is in effect). This is like A1 above.
2) Move lever 180 degrees in either direction (lever will be up) to achieve very high compression damping which will be very firm but will "blow off" under a big hit or heavy load.

Raiyn, if you are right, ProPedal is the very firm locked out position which will blow off on big hits (B2 above). Is this correct? To me this does not make sense for XC, but then who knows. My manual makes no mention of ProPedal, which is very suspicious. Maybe I have the wrong manual, because I am 100% sure that my shock is the 2004 ProPedal version - as it is clearly written on the shock. I also know that not all 2004 Trek Fuels come with the ProPedal version of the Fox Float RL.

I have to admit that I never tried position B2. I certainly don't want a locked position that only compresses on big hits. But I have tried position A2 (locked) and this certainly works as advertised. And this is different from the Triad version.

Bottom line: now I am confused.

TimB

I think you guys are talking about the Fox RP3...?

I have Float RL Propedal on my Scalpel and it only has two settings.

Locked out or open with Propedal. YOu cannot adjust the propedal without opening the shock.

I have to admit it does what it says on the can. The Propedal is very effective at ironing out the bob. yes the shock is less "plush" but it seems that when you hit something big it switches the shock over to a fully open mode automatically or perhaps this is just how the valving works.

very effective though

serious

I finally noticed that the manual I have is for the 2003 Fox Float RL pedal. So the description I gave above is for the 2003 model and there was no ProPedal at that time. Thus the 2003 model has 3 basic positions (Normal, Closed and Firm with "blow-off" on big hits).

But on my bike I do have the 2004 model Fox Float RL with ProPedal, so I sent an e-mail to Fox Service to ask for an explanation of the lock-out lever operation. I would suspect that they will tell me that the Normal position has ProPedal incorporated. That is what would make sense since my bike is always in the Normal position and bob is certainly minimal. I will let you know what Fox says - assuming they answer my e-mail.