owenmyers

I picked up these two bikes for $20 total today. The blue one is a Tange Diamondback Apex with full Deore, and in red is the Half assembled Peugeot Montreal express. From some basic research i found out that the Apex was centurions high end mountain bike of 1985. The Peugeot happens to be a bottom of the line MTB but i love peugeots either way. I want to know more about them and what they're worth. Tell me more about the Deer head on the FD




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dminor 

They're worth about what you paid for them . . . or maybe less. Have fun.

owenmyers

I could probably get $20 for the bio-pace cranks alone, your opinion is insulting.

roccobike

The Deer Head FD is worth more than you paid for the bikes. You need to go on line to find out the value or at least have someone here who knows the current value to post. You might want to consider replacing it with another unit and selling it to fund your rebuild.
Generally speaking rebuilt, ready to ride vintage MTB's sell for around $100 to $125, but that may vary depending on your area. That's why I'm thinking you want to sell the front DR separately. The deer head derailer also is found on Road bikes. I'm not sure if it's the same model, but they are desirable.
EDIT: Try posting over on the Classic and Vintage forum. They know more about those bikes and that derailer. My guess, from having rebuilt many of those bikes, the Diamond Back (early DB based on the separation of the name, later models have no space) is the way more desirable of the two. Peugeot road bikes are in demand, but their MTB aren't. They are rare, but no one cares.
2nd Edit: If you paid $20 for the pair, as is, that's a good price. The DB is worth about $25 as is, the Peugeot less. The prices I quoted above are for rebuilt, bikes with repacked bearings, new cables and brakes that are in good working condition, index shifters working perfectly, and a chain within specification, tires that have no dry rot.

Daspydyr 

I've always liked the thinking behind the biopace crank. Obviously the world doesn't agree. In their day the bikes were items. The market today is pretty slim. Classics is a good place to post.

ka0use

personally, i think the apex is kinda sexy, if only for the spare spoke holders. makes me think
of truly serious riding in the outback or the atlas mountains. survival riding. post-apocalyptic riding! rrrrrr! tinker with them until the end of the world in december and then barter them. if by sheer chance the world [I]doesn't[I] end then, put 'em up for sale.
you didn't show much of the peugeot. boo hoo.

i can imagine a lot worse projects. find a bike co-op for used parts. i get extra used tires at
one in denver for ~$5@ with great tread, used tubes for $2@ (sometimes with a hole or two).

i should get one just for the s'perience and to keep my tools working. i'd enjoy it more if i had someone to give it to..

owenmyers

I'm liking the spoke holders, i know i would never use them on the road but they are still unique. I will take your word and remove the deer head for further examination. Both bikes will be extensively cleaned and re-packed. Since i live in a good market, i think i can part with the DB for $115, and i'm keeping the Peugeot.

Thank you

LesterOfPuppets

As a general rule, at least 50% of the Road Cycling and Mountain Biking subforums really don't care much at all about bikes more than 5 years old so they assign their own values to old bikes, which is to say that since they personally don't want them that they're worthless.

The DB can make a fine off-road touring bike with the lowrider mounts on the fork. Make sure you highlight those in your ad. In its current condition I think $115 may be a tough pull here but MTBs are valued higher down south so maybe you'll get it down there. Be patient, repost daily and wait 4 weeks before dropping price.

EDIT: Just noticed the highflange front hub on yours. Those are hot! Just sold a Univega with that hub laced to Ukai rims. Kinda makes me think wheel didn't come with bike. Check fork for damage that may be related to front wheel being replaced.

Here's another member's Apex, which with cleaner bars and real pedals could maybe bring a little more. A little elbow grease on your bike would probably be worth it pre-sale.

owenmyers

Araya RM-25's laced to Suzue high flange hubs. No damage that i can see.

dminor 

Wahwahwah. Why do you ask questions like that if you don't want to hear answers? Was your point really to get a bunch of attaboys over your purchasing coups? They're old; they're yard sale fodder; they're not collector's items. The mountain biking world has moved on even if you haven't. Get over it.

klunkrleaguenow

i know im new here, but are completely rude and disrespectful comments like these the norm? The bikes may or may not be worth anything, but i agree that the response was kind of rude. Theres a wrong way and a right way to get any opinion across without sounding like a prick. I just hope i didn't make a mistake by joining this forum, i may ask questions regarding my bike, which isnt the nicest, or most expensive one on here, but i dont expect to be made fun of or insulted because its my bike and i like it. just my .02

LesterOfPuppets

Many negative posts around here are tongue-in-cheek. Seems like dminor is experiencing some straightedge angst, though. Common phenomenon.

klunkrleaguenow

straightedge? This is why i drink, eat meat, and whatever other vices make me happy. Im much more friendly

LesterOfPuppets

Hahaha, I dunno if d is really keepin' the edge, just riffin' on his avatar.

20grit

Eh, there's a 92 page long thread about vintage mountain bikes in C&V where these two machines would be more than welcome. Vintage mtb's have their place. I rode my early 90's Stumpy last summer with some other riders. The only weakness was the brakes.

Daspydyr 

I think Mr. Minor was upset to see an early DB sporting Yeti Tourquiose. Plus he didn't get his ticket punched for Petermarzburg, gotta feel for him.

dminor 

Let me rephrase:

Ooooooo . . . those are two sweet rides. Steel is still real, baby . You should be sure to post them ion the C&V forum too; there are a lot of serious collectors there who will be envious of what you scored there. I wish I could find a deal or two like that; I think I would find it very satisfying to sink a couple or three hundred into one of those steeds for the cachet of doing some serious, hardcore commuting on real Tange steel.

There. Is that better?

cryptid01

Surely the Peugeot Montreal Express comes with a latte holder?

digthemlows

Not wanting to add to the flames at all here but I work at a Bike Kitchen (Co-op) and we have piles of these that were donated for free.............we build em up and sell them for $50 - $100 all day long. It's a good amount of work to get them up and running, but you'll make your money back, just not your time...........they are a dime a dozen..............steel sticks around for ever!!

Mr IGH

D-bag, driving away potential participants is his hobby. Now get out of here!

never

Who's hobby? If it's dminor's hobby, he can drive away whoever he wants.

LesterOfPuppets

If it's hardtail, it's gotta be steel for me. Aluminum frames are poo on da trails without sproing front and rear.

Mr IGH

I open ~5 threads here and D-bag is a jerk in two of them. What's funny is he must not know how to actually work on a bike, he thinks the only way to fix up old bikes is to take them to an LBS. As if an LBS could work on something more than five years old. D-bag must be some industry type, he only hypes new and expensive. Hence his hating on hardtails and 29'ers. If it doesn't need constant LBS service, it's no use the D-bag....

vanvanj

I sold that same exact Peugeot for $300 recently and only 5 out of the 10 speeds worked, he knew it, solid solid commuter bike! Nice find!

Daspydyr 

Let's keep this to bikes people. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.