Thoughts on a Steelhead, or any FR HT?
12-26-04, 04:22 PM
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Thoughts on a Steelhead, or any FR HT?
Well I took the plunge and started parting out my Stumpjumper to get a more FR oriented trailbike. The fork alone brought me close to $500. Anyways, I am trying to decide what to build. Basically I want something strong thats still trail friendly. I'm leaning towards geared as its a bike that would probably be ridden around the neighborhood a lot. The primary frame I am currently looking at is an Azonic Steelhead XL. My goal for the build weight is around 30lbs.
I plan on using my current XT/Specialized crankset, XTR rear, LX front, RF shifters... wheels I will most likely take apart my 317's and lace them to Rynolites or something of that nature, though I think I would probably be ok for quite awhile on the 317's even. Brakes I want to go disc, and am thinking Avid BB7's might be good enough, though with the price I can get Shimano mechanicals at, they are tempting too. Probably run a 100mm, which is short in comparison to any stem I've ever used before.
Now for a fork, what is good? I know little about FR forks. I need light more than I need strong probably... I'm not very brave and don't intend to do any drop over 4-5ft... even those are in the distant future. The only one that comes to mind off the top of my head would be the RS Psylo and for Marz and Manitou I have no idea what they offer anymore. Can't afford a Fox. Figure in the $400-450 range for a fork.
Any comments on the proposed setup are welcome, or suggestions for a different/more appropriate frame.
Jon
I plan on using my current XT/Specialized crankset, XTR rear, LX front, RF shifters... wheels I will most likely take apart my 317's and lace them to Rynolites or something of that nature, though I think I would probably be ok for quite awhile on the 317's even. Brakes I want to go disc, and am thinking Avid BB7's might be good enough, though with the price I can get Shimano mechanicals at, they are tempting too. Probably run a 100mm, which is short in comparison to any stem I've ever used before.
Now for a fork, what is good? I know little about FR forks. I need light more than I need strong probably... I'm not very brave and don't intend to do any drop over 4-5ft... even those are in the distant future. The only one that comes to mind off the top of my head would be the RS Psylo and for Marz and Manitou I have no idea what they offer anymore. Can't afford a Fox. Figure in the $400-450 range for a fork.
Any comments on the proposed setup are welcome, or suggestions for a different/more appropriate frame.
Jon
12-26-04, 04:27 PM
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..look at the rockshox pike...
3 to 5.5 in travel
light (5pounds)
Its my next fork...oh and did I mention lik 389 american.
3 to 5.5 in travel
light (5pounds)
Its my next fork...oh and did I mention lik 389 american.
12-26-04, 04:30 PM
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https://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=FK605A44
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=FK605A44
There is also a team race version which is still cheap.
https://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=FK605A44
There is also a team race version which is still cheap.
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Im pretty sure the Steelhead is more of a dirt jump rig, VERY popular over in the Uk with dirt jumpers.
Errrmm.... I would recommend a Psylo aswell actually.. Pretty good forks, i was going to say dirt jumper 2's i use mine for freeride and i love them, maybe something from the Stance series by manitou?
For the frame, what about a Brodie Holeshot? Nice frames and very gear friendly, not sure how a 100mm would work on that though, the stock bike has a Noxon, which i THINK is 130mm...
Errrmm.... I would recommend a Psylo aswell actually.. Pretty good forks, i was going to say dirt jumper 2's i use mine for freeride and i love them, maybe something from the Stance series by manitou?
For the frame, what about a Brodie Holeshot? Nice frames and very gear friendly, not sure how a 100mm would work on that though, the stock bike has a Noxon, which i THINK is 130mm...
12-26-04, 04:31 PM
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Marzocchi Dirt Jumper 3 or Manitou Sherman Flick or a Psylo if you can find a new one.
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The Steelhead is listed as a dirtjump/urban/fr frame... good friend of mine has one rigged for fr and loves it. Anyways, its dirt cheap which is my main reason for checkin it out. I'll look into the Psylo (maybe i can find a good deal with the model change) or a Pike I think... despite my hatred for all things Rockshox, they are cheap 
Originally Posted by Cornish_Rdr_UK
Im pretty sure the Steelhead is more of a dirt jump rig, VERY popular over in the Uk with dirt jumpers.
Errrmm.... I would recommend a Psylo aswell actually.. Pretty good forks, i was going to say dirt jumper 2's i use mine for freeride and i love them, maybe something from the Stance series by manitou?
For the frame, what about a Brodie Holeshot? Nice frames and very gear friendly, not sure how a 100mm would work on that though, the stock bike has a Noxon, which i THINK is 130mm...
Errrmm.... I would recommend a Psylo aswell actually.. Pretty good forks, i was going to say dirt jumper 2's i use mine for freeride and i love them, maybe something from the Stance series by manitou?
For the frame, what about a Brodie Holeshot? Nice frames and very gear friendly, not sure how a 100mm would work on that though, the stock bike has a Noxon, which i THINK is 130mm...
12-26-04, 04:42 PM
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IU hate rockshox...but the pike shows real promise to offer a z1 style ride and length...with 1/2 the price..right up my alley...
althoguh they have grown on me. I lioved the boxxer I used...
althoguh they have grown on me. I lioved the boxxer I used...
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Gotta admit, if i was gonna buy a Rockshox i would definatly buy the Pike... Looks really nice... And yes, Seely you are right, they are dirt cheap.... i didnt realise they could be used for freeride, my bad, everyone over here uses it for dirt jumping so i automatically thought that it was a DJ frame 
12-26-04, 05:03 PM
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Another option, on jenson they ave closeouts on 2004 z1's for like 320 or something stupid cheap like that. Might be another kickass option.
12-26-04, 05:28 PM
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I had a friend who had a steelhead and it lasted him about 2 months max.he destroyed it,bent it all up.It would have lasted me longer I don't ride like he does. 
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Hm, I'll have to check what my price is on the various forks... I'm thinkin a Psylo XC would be too wimpy? The adjustable travel kinda has my interest peaked, along with how cheap they are goin now.
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steel fr frame and xc fork. Pyslo is decent though, stronger then the xc name insinuates.
12-26-04, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
steel fr frame and xc fork. Pyslo is decent though, stronger then the xc name insinuates.
12-26-04, 05:53 PM
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I'll sell you a Marzocchi Z1 MCR, 130mm of travel, in awesome shape. I used it for light freeriding, and sorry to spam. PM if your interested, will sell cheap(SSVF valving system)
IMO - stick with Manitous and Marzocchi, from past experience, they seem to hold up the best, however RockShox do make nice stuff. the fox vanilla series are nice if you can find one cheap, their usually like 400ish i think. Im running the Vanilla 125r on my PX Pitbull for urban, held up real well and is buttery smooth
IMO - stick with Manitous and Marzocchi, from past experience, they seem to hold up the best, however RockShox do make nice stuff. the fox vanilla series are nice if you can find one cheap, their usually like 400ish i think. Im running the Vanilla 125r on my PX Pitbull for urban, held up real well and is buttery smooth
12-26-04, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by B1105
I'll sell you a Marzocchi Z1 MCR, 130mm of travel, in awesome shape. I used it for light freeriding, and sorry to spam. PM if your interested, will sell cheap(SSVF valving system)
12-26-04, 06:55 PM
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Ok, so a 04 Minute 2:00 vs. a Psylo XC vs. a Z1, who would win? The Psylo is the cheapest, the other two are about the same price.
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Z1 MCR is a very different fork then a z1 fr, keep that in mind.
Psylo for me
Psylo for me
12-26-04, 09:03 PM
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Just that one has Tulio and one is QR.
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It was. But it is now equivelent to the exr in internals and the stanchion size.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider24
Just that one has Tulio and one is QR.
12-26-04, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by seely
How about on an SL with QR? It seems they came both way?
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