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Old 01-02-05, 02:05 AM
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All-mountain hardtail frames?

There are a lot of cool all-mountain 4-5" travel FS bikes around now, but there doesn't seem to be much available in the way of hardtails, everything is either a full freeride/dirt jump/dual slalom frame, or a XC race frame. The only things I can think of that seem to fall in between are the Santa Cruz Chameleon and the Fetish Discipline.

Anyone know any other hardtail frames that are sort of an all-mountain/trailbike design?
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Old 01-02-05, 04:02 AM
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orange bikes make some, the sub zero is v nice

http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2005bik...p?bike=subzero

http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2005bik...php?bike=crush
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I've been looking for a similar setup for myself. I like a plush ride, but I don't pull big drops or ride street anymore. I could probably stand to ride a dual-slalom or 4x setup, because they're meant to use less travel.

Right now I'm riding an early 90's Norco frame, but the geometry won't take over 90mm of travel before it starts to get lazy. The newer singlespeed frames from Surly, IRO, Spicer, and Gunnar have a good geometry for taking on long rides and will accomodate a medium travel fork. I haven't had a chance to get on one of the new Norco hardtails, yet.
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Norco makes all mountain ht's and so does kona. Even specialized. They still, and always will, have a similar geometry to dj bike with sloped tt and more standover than a xc bike but fit bigger.
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http://www.ritcheylogic.com/

I've not ridden this proprietary alloy. It is the only ATB frame he makes anymore.
Expensive.

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The norco Charger is an awesome all mountain mtb. My friend has one and it rides like a dream through the trails n' stuff.

http://www.norco.com/05/2005bikes/allmountain.php
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I wonder about geometry. Not knowing much about the 'standard' geometries of bikes for the various divisions of the sport, I bought a frame for mtn/xc. I fit an RS Indy fork because weight and price were my highest values (NOS '03 model for $200).

I have yet to truely test the assembled bike on a gnarly trail but around town it looks and feels great.

If any of you folks have input as to the geometry, and applicability of this frame/fork combo, I am appreciative. The specs are listed at the company's url.


http://www.litech-mg.ru/mountain.html

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Holy fuzzy batman. Can't read those scans at all
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sorry, here's the source url

http://www.litech-mg.ru/mountain.html
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Old 01-03-05, 03:14 PM
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Here's the completed bike.
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thats one burly lookin frame!
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http://www.bansheebikes.com/bike-scirocco.html

Done.
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Old 01-04-05, 12:50 AM
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I'll do ya one better

http://www.surlybikes.com/virtual_Instigator.html

And its steel!
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, what IS better? What IS not?
What do the numbers really mean?

See, I was seduced by the bottom line: under three pounds and under $150.
Yes, it's a pretty color!
Yes, it'll take a vertical drop of.....who knows....
But, how do you interpret the geometry?
I see a lot of modern bikes on the site with forks that have 7" of travel, dual suspension, xtr or x.o kit, and price tags that would cover a year of my truck payments (and that's alot).
But, how long should the top tube be?

Wait, I know, is it comfortable to ride?
Ahhhh...
That is the question, whether 'tis nobler to scrub under a cool bike or suffer the slings and arrows of placeing with a bike that people see and say, "Hunh?"

I got a cool bike, pieced together offa Ebay at a discount. You got a cool bike.
We gots cool bikes, Mon! Engineered by pot smoking geeks who dropped out of MIT or out of work Russian aerospace techs.

I just wanna know what it all means!?!?
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Old 01-04-05, 01:25 AM
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Well the way I interpet geometry is just compare it to the bike I have now. If it works it works.
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