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Old 06-19-12, 04:35 PM
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Neck Strain

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I'm 5'7" and my bike is 15" (small). I feel strain on the back of my neck after about an hour of trail riding.

I feel my body weight tended to lean forward. I adjusted the seat position a little, but it didn't help that much.

Is there way I can raise the headle bar a little higher? I'm not sure my headset is adjustable vertically.
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Old 06-19-12, 05:41 PM
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that pain you are feeling is the reason we tell people who are 5'7" to ride a bike that is 17" - 18.5". your bike is too small. people are eager to say "you can ride a small bike" but they forget about the part where it doesn't fit them and causes pain.

you can get a ridiculously long stem and riser bars and raise up your position, it might help.

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Bike fitting is getting to be a bigger thing. You can try a LBS or Youtube has a ton of options to watch. I tried a few things from a Specialized Fitting video that was helpful. Moving the seat forward helped me. I also do neck strengthening exercises that are helpful. http://www.backzilla.com/ this website is helpful to me.

It sounds like you are stretched out too much and having to strain to keep your head up. You can buy (possibly) a shorter stem with some rise in it to get your position more upright.

If you can post a picture of yourself on the bike it would be helpful.
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Old 06-19-12, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pablosnazzy View Post
that pain you are feeling is the reason we tell people who are 5'7" to ride a bike that is 17" - 18.5". your bike is too small.
Hmm I get a similar pain sometimes while riding, and have often wondered if it is too small for me. I feel fine most of the time, but there is that 25% of the time when the back of my neck aches. I like the smaller size for handling, but the neck pain can be incredibly annoying.

For the record I ride a 19" bike and am 6'2. Currently looking at switching the frame out to an XXL frame though.
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I want to make sure measured my bike size correctly before I start change parts of the bike. So here is what I did.
I measured the length of the seat tube, from the base to the top. The base is the round section at the bottom holding the axle (the bottom bracket) and the top is where the seat post goes into the seat tube.
It measures 15", so my bike is 15" (small), correct?

Would replacing the frame a doable option?
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Replacing the frame is very doable. It can open up a whole new bike world with a different frame.

NAIKU-I'm 6'3" and rode a 19" for a long time. Same reason as you mention. Handles quick, good on downhills. But I did feel cramped at times. I went with a XXL 21" frame a couple years back. No neck pain, but I was stretched out and my hands were going numb. Previously my saddle was slammed as far back as possible. No I have pushed it almost as far forward as possible. Trying to wheelie or mechanical was a TOTALLY different experience. I like my XXL frame, but it took a bit to get used to the feel and set up.

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Originally Posted by Daspydyr View Post
NAIKU-I'm 6'3" and rode a 19" for a long time. Same reason as you mention. Handles quick, good on downhills. But I did feel cramped at times. I went with a XXL 21" frame a couple years back. No neck pain, but I was stretched out and my hands were going numb. Previously my saddle was slammed as far back as possible. No I have pushed it almost as far forward as possible. Trying to wheelie or mechanical was a TOTALLY different experience. I like my XXL frame, but it took a bit to get used to the feel and set up.
That's good to know, I also have my saddle pushed back as far as is possible. Hopefully I can pick up this XXL frame I am looking into.
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Any thoughts on Ventana frame? I saw the complete bike on the latest Dirt Rag and it looks nice. I'm not sure the frame would cost though and compatibility with the components on my current bike as my current bike is almost 10 yrs old.
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El Cyclone looks like a decent enough bike. Your tires and rims should fit. If nothing else fits, buy new stuff, this bike is rockin!
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I'm not saying anyone else is wrong, but just putting this out there because I think you should go to a decent/knowledgeable LBS with your bike before diagnosing this problem based on random internet opinions(none of which can see you on the bike) - I'm also 5'7" and am riding a 15" frame(measured from center of BB to top of TT. 16" to top of ST.) It doesn't cause any neck pain for me. I think if I rode any larger frame, it would get me into trouble on some climbs because if I get stuck on a rocky area or large rock and have to put my feet down, I wouldn't have clearance for my soft parts and have to either injure myself or probably fall over with the bike trying to get my feet down without injuring my soft parts. And I don't have much of a rise to my bars. Just over 1" I think. And my stem is a 60mm, so obviously not much rise available there. Maybe you do need a larger frame, but maybe it's something else.
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Any thoughts on Ventana frame?
Ooo. Stay away from Ventana. These frames originate out of Istanbul, Turkey and are jigged and welded by prison labor - - ten years after the Superheroes bike vids were released, a group of the once-famed riders got busted crossing the border out of Bulgaria on a good will MTB tour and were sentenced to 20 years on trumped-up possession charges.

Turkish officials noted that this group was made up of some pretty talented riders and builders, so they put them to work making knock-offs and original designs of popular American-designed mountain bikes. Materials were obtained through gray-market connections with Croatia and the former East Germany and these American inmates are forced to work 18-hour days with no breaks forming tubes and welding them in what is, by Western standards turn-of-the-century Industrial Revolution working conditions.

The Turkish prison officials then went on to establish a clandestine marketing operation utilizing relatives in the U.S. who are naturalized citizens under the brand name "Ventana." This name is actually an adaptation of a dialectic word among the hill-people above Eskisehir meaning . . . well . . . it's a NSFW term so I won't repeat it here.

Suffice to say, if you buy one, you are perpetuating an international travesty and making it harder to free these innocent Americans from their captors.
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WOW, looked it up on Snopes, its a scary fact!
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Just so we don't get Bike Forum in any hot water with Ventana, dminor drinks warm cask beer and is not always reliable. Neither is my ability to make sense of Snopes. The Ventana that is based in Northern CA seems to have distanced itself from Eastern European slave makers.
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The Ventana that is based in Northern CA seems to have distanced itself from Eastern European slave makers.
Only in that they have moved the base of funding their operation from hashish to good ol' Made-in-the-USA N CA cannabis.

And don't listen to the cover-yer-azz sissy moderator up there - - everything I said must be true from what I recall culling from numerous Wikipedia entries and totally reliable Pinkbike forum posts. After all, since it's free and uncensored the Internets are the best source of unfettered, factual information . . . right?


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Originally Posted by 3speed View Post
I'm not saying anyone else is wrong, but just putting this out there because I think you should go to a decent/knowledgeable LBS with your bike before diagnosing this problem based on random internet opinions(none of which can see you on the bike) - I'm also 5'7" and am riding a 15" frame(measured from center of BB to top of TT. 16" to top of ST.) It doesn't cause any neck pain for me. I think if I rode any larger frame, it would get me into trouble on some climbs because if I get stuck on a rocky area or large rock and have to put my feet down, I wouldn't have clearance for my soft parts and have to either injure myself or probably fall over with the bike trying to get my feet down without injuring my soft parts. And I don't have much of a rise to my bars. Just over 1" I think. And my stem is a 60mm, so obviously not much rise available there. Maybe you do need a larger frame, but maybe it's something else.
I appreciate your input. The strain may caused by my ride position and especially when I descending, my whole body gets very tense including the neck. I guess I will ride more and see.
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