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Old 01-13-05, 12:59 AM
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Which Hardtail???

Hi,

Ive narrowed the bikes down to 5 which im interested in and fall into my budget AUS$1000 ( US$766 ). Im looking for a bike to ride on trails, on the road and ride to the beach. I wont be doing any major jumps but i may jump a gutter or two if i get bored on my rides. Ive listed the bikes below and also the price i can buy them for in Australian dollars.

TREK 4500 Disc $999 ( US$765) http://www2.trekbikes.com/en/Bikes/M...4500/index.php

GIANT IGUANA Disc $899 (US$690)
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/au/030...asp?model=9853

KONA FIREMOUNTAIN $899 (US$690)
http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...8&parentid=182

KONA BLAST $1049 (US$800)
http://www.konaworld.com/shopping_ca...9&parentid=182

SPECIALIZED Rockhopper NO DISC $900 (US$688)
http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...mmhfa15.j27008

1.Which bike do you guys recommend, also which bike has the better components and build quality???

2. Are there any other MTB in my price range i should look for before i buy.

Thanks.
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Old 01-13-05, 01:02 AM
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check it out. go to your LBS, test ride them all. they all have different geometries and they feel different. then when you've test rode all of them either: 1) make your purchase or 2) come back here and tell us (if any) you want to elimate from the list. you want to be comfortable on the bike.
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Old 01-13-05, 01:21 AM
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the Trek doesn't seem to be in the same class as the others there... the Kona Blast is equipped much better in my opinion. The Trek also seems to have a more upright riding position than the others. The Iguana doesn't look too bad, but still the Kona seems to win out... The MZ Comp is not a horrible fork (I have one), the Deore Mech brakes won't be too bad (you can always upgrade to Avids). Also it comes with a full Deore drivetrain, which should serve you quite well. To me, it's the best deal of the bunch by a longshot. The Specialized has too much cheapie Tektro and Alivio stuff for my tastes... very nice frame, chintzy components.
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Old 01-13-05, 02:10 AM
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Look at a Gary Fisher Tassaharra. I just got a 2004 for $519 US. Sugested retail is about $700 or a bit less. Out of all I rode I liked their geometry and fit best. IMO.

Bike fit was an important factor. Next was service and then component groups. IMO I filled all of those requirement to my need.
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Old 01-13-05, 03:34 AM
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Have you taken any of them for a test ride yet?

Because the fit of the bike is the most important factor of the bike, you can always upgrade components later. Out of those i would be leaning towards the kona, although the specialized has always been a fairly popular choice as well.
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Old 01-13-05, 05:20 AM
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I would say the Giant, the frame is really good, as is the hydro disk option. you have to consider that you will have to buy a helmet, multitool, pump, spare tubes etc.etc. if you are just starting out and the giant represents the best value for money and will leave you with enough to get the other stuff you need.
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Old 01-13-05, 06:00 AM
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I see the blast as a worthy upgrade over the fire mountain. The Iguana is a better deal than the Fire Mountain, though. The FM only has Acera X derailleurs front & rear.. kinda cheesy if you ask me. The X-7 stuff is a coup in that price range for sure. I just don't care for the brakes though. I'm not so sure how great the Shimano 475 mechanical discs are... I think they're actually a step beow the deore line? The hydro Soles might be a bit better, but they're still below the HFX-9's which are about the lowest I'd go in the Hayes lineup (simply because I KNOW they work fine.. they can stop a 450lb dude from 30mph, they're fine). Throwing out the Blast, the Iguana is far and away the best deal of the bunch. I still say go ride them and decide which one "feels" best to you. I can't see a single good reason to take the Fire Mountain over the Iguana besides the Iguana not fitting you worth a flip.
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IMO I'd get the Iguana over the FM, but the blast over both of those...and I look at good brakes as a requirement...
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I've ridden an '04 Iquana and an '04 blast. I thought the Giant was a decent bike but I was thoroughly impressed with what the Blast offered for the money.
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deffinetly go to your lbs and test them out. I remember i was going to get a giant, then i went to a shop in san diego that had an indoor course, and i tried out the haro escape, and loved it.

So i would say go test them all out, see which one fits best, but if u like em all, go w/ the blast in my opinion
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Old 01-13-05, 10:16 AM
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If you can, try out a Fisher. You'll either love or hate the Genisis geometry, so don't commit to a GF until you've ridden it.
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Old 01-14-05, 12:37 AM
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1000 aussie, hmmmm im aussie, id have to recommend the specialized hardrock sport, only thing being when you buy it buy a couple of those brakets that attach the rear derailleur to the frame, they break very easily, 850 you're looking at
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Unfortunately the Hardrock Sport is not even remotely in the same class as a couple of those other bikes as far as components go. The Pro kinda matches up, but I still dig the blast out of that bunch, followed closely by the Iguana.
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The fire Mountain and the Blast are not in the same league, so unless money is the problem, go for the blast

(Konas last well as my 94 Explosif will tell you, Still rides well, and is still my favourite for a quick blast rounfd the Hills)
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Check this beauty! Great components and a good price. I have a 5 year old non disc model and it won't die!

GF Tassajara
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Aww cmon 5 years!

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Man, The Tass don't stay in no basement. That's five years of caked in mud except right after the river crossing. She's riden' hard and put up wet!
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Hi,

Is there much difference between the Kona Blast and the Kona Cinder Cone besides the price? Im just wondering if its work the extra couple hundred and buy the Cinder Cone...
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Originally Posted by outdoorboy
Man, The Tass don't stay in no basement. That's five years of caked in mud except right after the river crossing. She's riden' hard and put up wet!
What you said.

I have a Tass. Love the ride and the Geo. I do agree that this is a bike new buyers should test first against other standard geometries. For me GF all the way.
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