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Old 01-10-13, 02:41 PM
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I don't know what you think of the cheap WDCycle Elite frame but I think it's pretty light. I wrote about it here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...9#post15142269
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Old 01-10-13, 03:21 PM
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*ahem*

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Old 01-10-13, 07:15 PM
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Huh? Top tubes have gotten longer in recent times, not shorter. My '92 Stumpjumper Pro, for instance, came stock with a 150mm stem. Try to even find a 150mm stem these days...

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I have an awesome 90's lugged trek with platinum ox tubing which I could weld a disc tab to but the top tube on those old bikes were waaay long.
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Old 01-10-13, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
Huh? Top tubes have gotten longer in recent times, not shorter. My '92 Stumpjumper Pro, for instance, came stock with a 150mm stem. Try to even find a 150mm stem these days...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271130574864...84.m1555.l2649
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Old 01-10-13, 08:22 PM
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I have a 160 in my quill collection. I think 140 is the longest 31.8 Ive seen and theyre kinda rare.

Mean MTB ETT peaked in 1997.
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Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
Huh? Top tubes have gotten longer in recent times, not shorter. My '92 Stumpjumper Pro, for instance, came stock with a 150mm stem. Try to even find a 150mm stem these days...
Riding styles have changed. Geometry has slackened out and stems have gotten shorter for more responsive steering. Bikes aren't the steep, twitchy things they once were, so they don't need those long tillers to quiet things down any more.
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Old 01-11-13, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
Riding styles have changed. Geometry has slackened out and stems have gotten shorter for more responsive steering. Bikes aren't the steep, twitchy things they once were, so they don't need those long tillers to quiet things down any more.
Can you take a guess as to why that happened? Are people more or less competitive? Any influence from the 29er fad?
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^^ I believe it's just following the overall progression of the sport: a little more emphasis on descending; wanting to try bigger trail features or attack sections at greater speed, etc. The trickle-down of advances in bikes driven by the gravity end of the sport is evident in even the more entry-level trail bikes. Look at what's happened with the birth of the "all-mountain" category of bikes: pushing out beyond 6" of travel while still being a reasonable weight and retaining good trail manners - - not enough to win XC races but enough to keep up with your buddies on a climb so you can blow them away on the descent.

29ers haven't driven this. It's my (probably lone-voice) opinion that what's fueling the 29er craze is a large cross-over of road riders wanting to get into mountain biking, who never were able to wrap their heads around embracing suspension (the perceived inefficiency of dreaded 'pedal bob') and/or who cringed at small trail obstacles until they discovered those big hoops could just roll right over them. Plus, the 700c format was something less foreign to them psychologically and made the transition easier. But. like I say, that is just my purely non-scientifically-justified opinion from having read the hundreds of posts here over the years.
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Skeem, the way I see it, you have three options:

1) Quit law school, work full time, save up, & buy a frame of the quality that you so desperately "need".
2) Continue in law school & bike a bike of the quality that you can actually afford--capitalism doesn't care one bit about your budget.
3) Continue law school, become a practicing attorney, & buy whatever bike you want.

Options two & three can optionally be combined. If none of these work for you, you would do well to find a better reality (& let us know when you do).
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
Sooooooo . . . you're in law school and have no budget and no time to practice, yet you want to build a bike and race competitively this season in Cat 1?
That's 2 pretty negative comments from you in this thread dude...why?

The guy's just trying to use the forum to hopefully get onto a deal for a used frame...no harm being done as far as I can see.

Have a nice day....chin up.
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^^ Incorrect. The OP has mostly used this thread asa a vehicle to make a rant about steel frames. If he was truly serious about finding a suitable, competitive, reasonably-priced frameset for his purposes he'd have long since found one by now.

Why my tone? Because I've long since tired of luddites and retro-grouches grousing about how great old bikes/brakes/pick-your-component hardware used to be. It totally misses what is so cool about the bicycle: that, within the confines of two wheels, a couple sprockets and some chain, advances have progressed the sport forward in exciting little increments.
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Old 01-14-13, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dminor View Post
^^ If you kknow so much, why are you on a pedestrian public bike forum asking for help instead of just buying the frame you already know you want (but just appear to be too cheap to be willing to pay for)?

What he said.

Either sack up/save up for the frame you want, used or otherwise, whatever you can stomach paying OR deal with riding a bike that may offend your snobbish sensibilities.

You should probably be checking all the various forum classified sections as well. But I'm sure you are already doing that, right? those, ebay, and craigslist are going to likely net you a better frame for less dough than trolling through this forum, not to mention being sorta' douchie about doing so.

And seriously, if you're capable of training enough to race at that level, you should be quite capable of riding the **** out of your SS. If an extra pound in the frame is keeping you from racing, well, ride more and ***** less. Particularly on a hardtail, the fork/wheels/tire selection are going to make more difference than an extra pound on the frame.

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Old 01-14-13, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
The winter project I'm working on is to be an "everywhere explorer". It's a sixer frame but I think I'm gonna put 700c wheels with CX tires on. We'll see...


Silver Bullet. by Lester.L., on Flickr
how are you planning on dealing with the brakes if you put on 700c wheels?
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Old 01-14-13, 10:45 AM
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I'll post a pic when I get back to it tomorrow. Biggest job to do ATM is making a 135mm rear wheel.
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Originally Posted by skeem View Post
I have scoured the internet for months trying to find a decently priced 26" mtb frame in a smaller size, and it has yielded nothing.There seems to be nothing...
look on Ebay or craigslist. hundreds to choose from
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Im not only looking for steel. Im not trying to be grouchy or anything like that. Im simply asking for advice/ a frame to buy from the world on a small sized 26" mtb frame which weighs under 3 (or 3.5) lbs. I am a very resourceful person. Hell, Id like to think Im a master of the ebay CL circuit. I put together, for cross season, a 2011 kona jts frame with full campy record 10 (ti), including (2011) record hubs on tubular rims WITH tires for under $950. I grew up on ebay and craiglslist. What I am saying is that there are not frames out there as I need. I have put the work in and have come up with nothing; thats why I have turned to this "pedestrian" forum. If you are so sure Im wrong, I implore you to find me ANY 26" hardtail (disc ready or steel, so I can weld) frame with a modern headtube size, "racing" (not dj/am) geometry, the ability to be built up to sub 23lbs (with full xtr, king wheels, and fox, thomson etc etc) IN A SIZE TO FIT SOMEONE 5'7 (15-16.5 inches). Oh and for a few hundred bucks.

Try it. I dare you. And none of this http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...09_-1___202388 . I know they exist. I was a ***** for cheap frames when I was 15, working my ass off just to buy said frames. Ive had em all. Theyre all heavy and ride like a$$. Go to your local cat 2 mtb race and show me those frames. you cant, largely. Not solely because cyclists love to spend money, but because ride like a bag of poop.
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This 16" Karakoram for $200 would probably be 24 lbs or so with pimp parts you're talking about but someone needs to save it from whoever set it up like that.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/3522401849.html

I'd offer $100. Walk if answer no. It'll surely sit on there for a week, then approach with $100 offer again. Wait, why am I telling the king of CL this?



I wouldn't bother putting disc mount on frame, personally, just run disc front, Vee back.
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Dude. You're still not getting it. They are out there. Just not at the cheap price you want to pay. This would also be easier if you would actually state what your budget is, rather than trotting out the "cheap" mantra.

So let's revisit your options:

1. save up more money, ride and train on you SS until you have the dough to get a frame to meet your standards. keep looking in the meantime for the "right" frame to pop up on sale/used/closeout somewhere.

2. buy a frame that doesn't meet your standards, but does meet your budget. ride the **** out of it, continuing to save for a better frame down the road.

3. continue to whine and moan and ignore those options. meantime, your future racing competition is riding and training, not *****ing. ride what you've got.

Find one of these in the smaller 16" size and you'll be golden.
http://shop.titusti.com/On-One-Carbo...-p/froocwh.htm

There are plenty of dudes and ladies that race quite well and competitively on SS and heavy non-optimal for XC racing bikes. You are going to have to compromise on something. Guess what? Welcome to life. But at least you'll be riding and racing vs. not.

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Christ on a cracker sandwich! Just did an ebay search for "carbon mtb frame" - 556 active listings.

Weed through to get your size, weight, fit, disc tabs, etc. and you'll get something. Now, maybe it won't be a nice high zoot frame/not glamorous, but it'll be something to hang your parts off and ride. Under 500 gets you a no-name carbon hardtail that would build up light, fit all your parts, and probably ride fairly decently.

As said, if you want it cheaper than that, well, revisit the options mentioned above. You're going to have to compromise on something.

Perhaps sell the cross bike if you want the mtb that badly right NOW? Then we can all stop holding your hand while you await your instant gratification.
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I know the on one is an option. If I wanted to spend under $200 Id go with the Inbred ( i used to ride a 29er ss- it was heavy but nice). I know the carbon on-one exists as well, but there has got to be some slightly higher quality used frames going for the same price. Surely someone has like a salsa a la carte, a cannondale caffine, aluminum stumpjumer in their garage theyd let go for 4 bills. This was not a request for help to look on ebay or craigslist, this was merely a plea to the world to sell me what YOU (or a friend or someone you know etc etc) have/has. Im sure there is someone out there who has a decent 26 inch frame lying around which they forgot all about, but upon hearing some dumbass like me may pay a few hundred bucks for it, then becomes encouraged to sell it. Perhaps you didnt realize that selling your beat-up 2005 Jamis dragon could land you some new xtr brakes. Who knows? I know there are 32 lb GT's on craigslist and no name chinese carbon and aluminum frames out there on ebay etc. I get that. What do YOU have to sell me?
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Here's another idea. Get a cheap frame for now, train your ass off, show up at some races and win/place, and then see if there's a local bike shop that has a store-sponsored team. You'll likely score some good deals and lower prices that way. And don't give me that you can't place well with a bike that's not quite up to your standards...no one's asking you to ride a Huffy (though Sam Hill on a Huffy would likely school most of us on expensive bikes without too much trouble).
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This was not a request for help to look on ebay or craigslist, this was merely a plea to the world to sell me what YOU (or a friend or someone you know etc etc) have/has. ... What do YOU have to sell me?
Asking to buy is not allowed outside of Marketplace, according to forum policy. You want to post there, you'll need to upgrade your membership. If you're looking for suggestions on potential bikes, that's fine, but if you're trying to get someone here to sell you something, I'm going to have to lock this topic.
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I would be happy to sell you a 2001 specialized hardrock with a rack and semi slicks. $100. I'll throw in a beagle and a set of MX tires for a YZ125 just out of the goodness of my heart. And cause I'm trying to free up some space.
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Send pics of beagle and mx tires
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You know that old song with the lyrics "to dream the impossible dream"? That's all, I won't be visiting this thread again.
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