not really, im just very fond of Ritchey stuff. If i can get it for under retail on ebay i will go for it, if not i wont bother.

Nothing against Ritchey at all... but why spend more than you need to spend, that's all I was getting at. ;) If you can find a Ritchey for super cheap, jump on it.. If you can find an easton for cheap (Abaxo sells them) jump on it. I love my Easton stem. Cambriabike has a bunch for super cheap as well on ebay. I found a 120mm 0 degree & 10 degree for about $17 each. Not bad if you ask me.

That was my plan, if i can find a ritchey cheap i will go for it. If not im going toward the EA70.

but 120 i think will be too much. I want a 100 or 110 with a slight rise

like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...132759142&rd=1

also, here's the MG60, which is magnesium and apparently a step above the EA70.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...132759183&rd=1

Oh...well yes like that. Actually, thankyou for that link i think im going to bid on that.

the MG60 or the EA70?

Also, glad to see you loved those levers.. told you they kick butt. Plus they look trick.. can't deny the joys of great brake levers

eeeh i think i will steer clear of magnesium after reading reviews on mtbr.com little spots growing affter some use. THe protective finish apparently does not stay a while

ahh, I see... apparently finding a 100 or 110 with 10deg rise in black in the EA70 is nearly impossible... I see tons of 0deg 100mm (my stem) and 120mm stems with all types of rise. Weird.. 120mm is pretty long. I found my 100mm to be perfect for my 5'7 self on a 17.5" specialized frame.

well i just dont want a 120mm. THey seem to be so common, my frames already fairly large so i dont need such a long stem. If its 100mm and a 0 degree rise thats okay. I find stems the hardest thing to buy, its not like i can really test them out since theres no store nearby that sells components besides the LBS but they are more for service, and various accessories.

Right... I wanted a 0 rise because I wanted to be stretched out and a bit lower than I was with my 90mm 10deg rise stem. I think my 17.5 is actually a bit small and I felt kinda scrunched up, so I figured I'd go with a longer stem with no rise. It's more comfortable now.

well im a bit taller, at 6'. With a rather large frame so im not entirely sure of what i want here. I believe right now i have a 90 with 10 degree rise. But i would not mind being a bit more stretched, and if i feel too spread out i can always get a setback seatpost and flip it forward.

or get a seat with longer rails and slide the saddle forward. I don't think that a 0deg vs a 10deg is going to stretch you out anymore... however, it will put you lower and more bent over, so to speak.

yea i was looking to change my seat before i go on vacation. I like having a little rise so im not bent over too much, but my handlebar is already pretty high up with 30mm of spacers. So i guess the 0 should be fine

Do you know if a B-17 has longer rails? THe seatpost and seat are snagged from and old Xmart bike so i cant say good things for the seats comfort

Use the $85 to take the friday off and ride 3 days straight.

I suck, almost rounded out all of the screws. Imma go check canadian tire if they have any screws that a are stronger.

fo shizzle

ritchey stems and handlebars is the best deal anywhere. i always run ritchey pro's on my road bikes. best stem for the money, period.

so I wonder what phantomcow ended up buying with his $85? Did you end up getting that Easton stem or what?

lol well, actually no a stem will do right now. I have to buy a few replacement spokes for my front wheel. No wonder i had such a hard time building it, and no matter what i did it would never be true. ANd i got flats, well ICYCLES cut some of hte spokes 5-7mm too LONG! So yea, and im buying spoke prep this time to go along with it. and jobst brandts book. THen hopefully if i sell enough on ebay i will have enough for the stem