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Wooden Tiger 03-14-13 06:41 AM

Jumping a Hardtail
 
Just got a '12 Cannondale Flash Alloy 2 29er with the "Lefty" fork a few weeks ago and I wanna hit some trails.

As a kid I had a GT Pro Performer and jumped it quite a bit off some fairly nice jumps. I don't know if things have changed but could I still jump a hardtail? How much "air" could I safely manage without damaging a frame and/or myself? I'm sure weight is a factor and I weigh about 210 lbs.

Also, when jumping, how do I want to land? Do I want to land fairly flat or would I want my rear wheel making contact with the ground first? I used to land with the rear wheel first but that was on a BMX/Freestyle bike without a fork with travel. I'm assuming things are probably a little different with a fork that travels?

hounslow 03-14-13 08:54 AM

It's possible, but i wouldn't recommend it. You have a nice, light XC bike, that wont have the right geometry or components for jumping, but it should be fine for the odd mid trail drop or table.

dminor 03-14-13 11:10 AM

I would keep your jumps to probaly under-14-foot gaps :D

Seriously, I presume you're just talking smaller obstacles like you'd find on a normal "fun" trail. Size is not so important as how 'flowy' the jumps are and smoothly you can boost them. With your bike, avoid ones that don't have a nice transition (down-slope landing). DON'T land rear-first (old-skool moto-style); instead, let the bike arc in the air to where your arced trajectory is in line with the slope of the transition. If the landing is a bit flat, still come in a bit nose-down so that your front suspension can absorb some of the landing and the rear follow. If you launch flat, the landing will be harsh; if you land nose-up on a hardtail, chances it will slap down, which then pitches you forward against a compressing fork - - which then unweights the rear end, threatening to send you OTB.

Wooden Tiger 03-14-13 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by hounslow (Post 15385438)
It's possible, but i wouldn't recommend it. You have a nice, light XC bike, that wont have the right geometry or components for jumping, but it should be fine for the odd mid trail drop or table.


Originally Posted by dminor (Post 15386035)
I would keep your jumps to probaly under-14-foot gaps :D

Seriously, I presume you're just talking smaller obstacles like you'd find on a normal "fun" trail. Size is not so important as how 'flowy' the jumps are and smoothly you can boost them. With your bike, avoid ones that don't have a nice transition (down-slope landing). DON'T land rear-first (old-skool moto-style); instead, let the bike arc in the air to where your arced trajectory is in line with the slope of the transition. If the landing is a bit flat, still come in a bit nose-down so that your front suspension can absorb some of the landing and the rear follow. If you launch flat, the landing will be harsh; if you land nose-up on a hardtail, chances it will slap down, which then pitches you forward against a compressing fork - - which then unweights the rear end, threatening to send you OTB.

Yeah, that's kinda what I mean...downhill trail and there's a "step-off" or something like that where the wheels would lose contact with the ground for a few moments. While I'd love to hit table-tops and what-not, I understand that's really not what the bike's designed to do. :)

osco53 03-20-13 02:29 PM

I always liked to, 'Pinch Back' or 'Poke The Bike forward' at the bars and pedals when I go airborne,
I Look out over the front, about six to ten feet out and land on both wheels, This cuts wheel load in half IF I get It right,,,,IF

My Body Is the Shock absorber.

But Its been a while,,I'll prolly crash XD


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