Geometry advice please
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Geometry advice please
As I said in my last post I am trying to decide between a Trek 6700 or a Gary Fisher HKEK, both new. There were several that helped before, thanks. I am still concerened about liking the GF genesis geometry in the long run. I have tried it briefly, but around the parking lot or down the street just does not seem like enough, and I don't want too spend the money if it will eventually something I won't like. So I am asking again for comments from those that have experiences/advice to share. Maybe its just not that big a deal-I'm just not sure. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by BikerBob
As I said in my last post I am trying to decide between a Trek 6700 or a Gary Fisher HKEK, both new. There were several that helped before, thanks. I am still concerened about liking the GF genesis geometry in the long run. I have tried it briefly, but around the parking lot or down the street just does not seem like enough, and I don't want too spend the money if it will eventually something I won't like. So I am asking again for comments from those that have experiences/advice to share. Maybe its just not that big a deal-I'm just not sure. Thanks!
edit: It's close but not exactly the same
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Not really. Remember, GF uses Genesis Geometry. Check the chain stay length. The HKEK has a 413 mm chain stay where the Trek has a 424 mm chain stay.
Therefore, the back wheel of the HKEK is tucked under more, thus creating the "Genesis" geometry.
I've tried it, and personally I don't like it (Genesis Geometry). Maybe because it was so different than what I was used to or maybe because it didn't fit my body.
Regardless, I tried one of the shop demo bikes for a XC race and had the worst race of my life. I hated the way the bike climbed, descended, went straight, turned,...everything. Plus, I had NEVER cramped as bad, and was sore for days. That was the WORST bike I'd ever ridden. It was by no means a cheap bike. It was a SUGAR 2.
Therefore, the back wheel of the HKEK is tucked under more, thus creating the "Genesis" geometry.
I've tried it, and personally I don't like it (Genesis Geometry). Maybe because it was so different than what I was used to or maybe because it didn't fit my body.
Regardless, I tried one of the shop demo bikes for a XC race and had the worst race of my life. I hated the way the bike climbed, descended, went straight, turned,...everything. Plus, I had NEVER cramped as bad, and was sore for days. That was the WORST bike I'd ever ridden. It was by no means a cheap bike. It was a SUGAR 2.
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Originally Posted by a2psyklnut
Not really. Remember, GF uses Genesis Geometry. Check the chain stay length. The HKEK has a 413 mm chain stay where the Trek has a 424 mm chain stay.
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From what I can tell, the Genesis geometry has a really short rear end and a stretched out cockpit. The top tube appears to be quite long for the bike sizes in question.
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Yeah, strangely enough, I was just comparing the "LARGE" frame and the effective top tube is about equal, but when you compare the small and the medium there is a significant difference as well.
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02-18-05, 04:23 AM
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take into account that the large sizes vary by a half an inch too... compare the mediums and it's a little different. Granted it's only 0.8" but it'd be noticeable. 
