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STRAVA vs GNAR a post ripped from James Wilson

Old 07-15-13, 06:07 PM
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STRAVA vs GNAR a post ripped from James Wilson

GNAR is the name of a ski movie and short for a game created by some skiers in Mammoth CA years ago. It stands for Gafney's Numerical Assessment of Radness and was a way for the locals to grade both the difficulty and fun factor on each line.

In other words, skiing down a run didn't mean anything. The real question was how much did you challenge yourself and how much fun did you have.

On the trail GNAR is best embodied in the old Freerider mentality – I may not be the fastest guy on the trail but I'm going to the hit craziest stuff I can find and have a ball, speed be damned.

Now, this isn't to say that going fast isn't fun and challenging, simply that going fast isn't the same thing as fun and challenging.

I've seen and heard riders justify running through a technical rock garden or riding around a fun trail feature in the name of speed but that doesn't do much for your GNAR score.

I'll admit that I'm biased and think that mountain biking is more GNAR that STRAVA. STRAVA seems to be leaning a bit too much towards the roadie side of things for me...mountain biking is about so much more than simply getting from Point A to Point B as fast as possible.

It also tends to reinforce the common problem of focusing on the outcome instead of the process.

I know because it happened to me.

I had STRAVA for a few weeks but the first time I came back to my car feeling pretty good about how I rode and felt on my ride but got discouraged when I saw my time wasn't as fast as I would have thought I erased it.

My focus went from the Internal Process to the External Outcome and I lost sight of the real reason I ride – to learn more and have fun.


I lean towards James Wilson way of thinking. I also like knowing where GNAR officially comes from? Its about the process of riding, not just getting from point A to B as fast as possible. It kinda goes with thread from last weekend about why do some hardcore Mountain Bikers avoid the Roadie world.

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Old 07-15-13, 06:43 PM
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Really? Learn something new every day, I guess. I assumed gnar came from the surfer term gnarly (or at least what I was under the impression started as a surfer term).

I don't use STRAVA. Never have, and don't really have any inclination to either. That's not why I ride a mountain bike. All the more power to people who do though, whatever gets your stoke on.
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I think Strava is useful for some to keep them from getting bored with a trail they run a lot.

But I don't use it either.
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I use strava often. Now, to be fair, I live where pro racers train and ride regularly so I don't ever expect to see my times shooting up the leader boards but it definitely makes me get out and push myself. Nt necessarily for speed but more miles than last month or more feet climbed because all of those things mean more smiles on the road and more fresh air.

Right now I am attempting a challenge put on by starve to climb 23k elevation in 8 days and it has been hard but I have had so much fun and I think my GNAR score would be pretty commendable for riding on the road.

GNAR or STRAVA whatever is getting people out and having fun I'm all for it.
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I am a STRAVA and GNAR fan.

For Mountain Biking I have found new trails and introduced my segments to others. Its been fun finding out the names that others give to trail segments.

I don't compete in organized racing, so STRAVA feeds my competitive edge. This time last year I was a middle of the pack rider in just about everything. That has fueled my fires and lit a fire under my rear. I now have some top tens (out of 300+ riders) and some #1s for age (55-64) and weight (200+).

I use the suffer score as a measure or quality workout when I am trying to push the limit. I know when I have had a blast and shredded some gnar. Suffering, now there is an area I can fool myself! STAVA keeps me honest.
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Originally Posted by Daspydyr View Post
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I lean towards James Wilson way of thinking. I also like knowing where GNAR officially comes from? Its about the process of riding, not just getting from point A to B as fast as possible. It kinda goes with thread from last weekend about why do some hardcore Mountain Bikers avoid the Roadie world.

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Originally Posted by Zephyr11 View Post
I assumed gnar came from the surfer term gnarly.
It did. Someone just piggybacked on it with their cutesy acronym.


Gnar isn't exclusive of speed of course: there are times you gotta be going fast enough to clear something. Fast and gnar is way-fun.
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Gafney's Numerical Assessment of Radness


That totally sounds like a backronym.
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