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Old 07-17-13, 05:19 AM
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Narrowing it down.....

This has two sets of pedals, three sets of tires including road tires, upgraded parts including the Fox fork and some carbon fiber stuff like the bar, bar ends, seatpost and owned/maintained by a bike mechanic.
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/3934866003.html
Specs......
http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...e#.UeZ8zny9KSM


This one is practically band new.
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/3921111783.html
Specs......
http://mountain-bikes.outsideonline....akota-DXC-Race

I have a Kona Caldera for mountain biking and prefer the style/feel over a hybrid or comfort bike. Will be riding this on path and light trails. I'd normally use this one for trails only but they both have fork lockout and my Kona doesn't. I'm going to put road-friendly tires on it so the price is nearly a wash.

Thoughts appreciated......best, John
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Old 07-17-13, 06:14 AM
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Fit, they look to be very different sizes. For the specs, the Giant is much better, would disregard the 'professional mechanic' part, as the front mech looks to be way to high (may be fine, just looks off in the photo), also would check the forks for stanchion wear, they look dirty, and if they have wear, you would need to budget for a new CSU, although even with this, it looks like an ok deal.

For your planned use, you may want to look at the crank on the Giant, as the gearing will be limited, as it doesn't have an outer (Raceface bashguard fitted).
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Old 07-17-13, 07:06 AM
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I don't really see the Giant part spec as being much better. Pretty much a wash in my opinion. The Fox is a much better fork, so that kind of evens it out.

You would need to ask about the service history of the fork. If the fork didn't receive regular service(at least once a year), it is possible that the stanchions are worn and could need to be replaced. Also ask about when the seals have been last replaced -- this is a wear and tear item. If you see any oil pooling up around the seal wiper or signs of oil dripping down the lower legs, that is a sure sign of worn out seals.

Here's what my friends Fox 36 stanchions looked like when I recently serviced his fork. This is what happens when a fork hasn't received any maintenance:



Typically, that kind of damage can only be seen when the lowers are removed.
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Old 07-17-13, 07:12 AM
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When trying to schedule a test ride of the Jamis, the guy told me he was lowering the price to $450 because the shock was leaking air. Seems strange to me considering it's age and supposed amount of use but what do I know? If that were all true, couldn't he have it fixed under warranty? He recommended changing it out to a coil spring fork....anyway, I'm kinda turned off now. Also, it tells me I don't know squat about bikes so maybe I should just go get the Giant Roam 2 or the Specialized Crosstrail Sport Disc I've been looking at!!
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Or this one? Ridden once and comes with lights, water bottle and computer for $500.http://mountain-bikes.findthebest.com/l/606/2011-Felt-Q620
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/3883535884.html
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Originally Posted by ncfisherman View Post
You would need to ask about the service history of the fork. If the fork didn't receive regular service(at least once a year), it is possible that the stanchions are worn and could need to be replaced. Also ask about when the seals have been last replaced -- this is a wear and tear item. If you see any oil pooling up around the seal wiper or signs of oil dripping down the lower legs, that is a sure sign of worn out seals.

Here's what my friends Fox 36 stanchions looked like when I recently serviced his fork. This is what happens when a fork hasn't received any maintenance:



Typically, that kind of damage can only be seen when the lowers are removed.
that is pretty sad.

but did he upgrade to kashima stanchions?
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that is pretty sad.

but did he upgrade to kashima stanchions?
You should have seen the gouges on the back of the left stanchion.

Unfortunately, he's not going to be able to get away with just swapping out the CSU. The upper bushing on the left side is totally trashed, so I told him it's time for a new fork. I did go in and replace seals as well as filling the gouges, so he should be able to get through the summer on that fork. One trip already to Snowshoe and one to Pisgah, and no reports of leakage on that side -- so far, so good.
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When trying to schedule a test ride of the Jamis, the guy told me he was lowering the price to $450 because the shock was leaking air. Seems strange to me considering it's age and supposed amount of use but what do I know? If that were all true, couldn't he have it fixed under warranty? He recommended changing it out to a coil spring fork....anyway, I'm kinda turned off now. Also, it tells me I don't know squat about bikes so maybe I should just go get the Giant Roam 2 or the Specialized Crosstrail Sport Disc I've been looking at!!
Yes, he could definitely have it fixed under warranty assuming that he is the original owner. Rockshox has very good warranty service.
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The Felt retailed for $699: http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...0#.Uebdkm1TMw8

The used market right now starts at about half of retail.
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Old 07-17-13, 01:37 PM
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Going to see the Giant XTC tomorrow and if that doesn't work out, I'm just gonna concentrate on a new bike. Looking at Giant Roam 2, Specialized Crosstrail Sport Disc and Trek Mamba which is on sale.
thanks for the help.
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Did you look at the sizes? As Jim mentioned, it looks like there the sizes are all over the place. It's only a good deal if it fits.

If the fork on a used bike needs servicing, that'd probably be a deal breaker for me. Forks are pricey, and servicing isn't cheap either. And if the fork is messed up, who knows what else needs work.
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Old 07-17-13, 02:40 PM
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Yeah, I'm skipping that one entirely. Right now, it's between the Giant listed above and this Trek Mamba I found.
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/bik/3921635872.html

I need some road wheels, it's nearly new and he will take $600. The $150 difference is no big deal but you are right, it's all about the fit at this point. If neither works, it's off to the bike shop. Since I'm getting one for my wife as well, maybe they'll treat me right
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