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Rode a Dirt Jumper and now my XC geometry feels really off

Old 04-08-14, 11:23 AM
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Rode a Dirt Jumper and now my XC geometry feels really off

I bought a Specialized P3 and started riding parks and DJs and it feels natural now. I jump on my Specialized Enduro Comp and the bars feel really narrow, high and the long stem feels off. Akward. Anyone experienced this? I know my XC geometry is designed to be comfortable when earning those downhill rides or comfortably covering distance, however I'm thinking of going with a wider handlebar and shorter flipped stem to drop the bars a bit and bring them in but don't want to get to far away from the original XC intended geometry.

XC - 105mm stem, 25" bars
DJ - 40mm stem, 30" bars

I know the above is relative but just showing the difference. The main issue I'd see with wider bars is clearing trees on some tight trails but that's it. I'm 6'6" so maybe these wider bars feel better due to my size?

Anyone go down this road?

Thanks in advance.
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You'd have to be in tighter trees than I've ever encountered to realistically have any trouble with wide bars. I've even taken 745s through trails like Cut Yer Bars in Whistler with no issues. I've run short stem/wide bars on everything for a while now and would not go back.
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Originally Posted by dminor
You'd have to be in tighter trees than I've ever encountered to realistically have any trouble with wide bars. I've even taken 745s through trails like Cut Yer Bars in Whistler with no issues. I've run short stem/wide bars on everything for a while now and would not go back.
Thanks for the reply. I checked the spec on the newest Enduro and the bars are 750mm. I'll be swapping bars at the least.
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Bar width for DJ stuff is a personal thing.

On my DMR:

35mm length Answer DJ Stem
Answer Protaper AM 720, 50.8 mm rise. Being on a rigid, I'd rather have the higher rise than a really wide bar.
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Originally Posted by somegeek
XC - 105mm stem, 25" bars
DJ - 40mm stem, 30" bars
You ID'd the issue here, for XC, for stem length and width are mid 00's spec, even the DJ setup isn't that wide for current standard. for XC, would be looking at 90mm max for the stem, and 680mm min for the bars, with 700mm+ being better, esp at your height, although tree clearance should be considered as you noted.

Remember, the bikes are designed for totally different purposes as well, try riding long distance on the DJ, and you may not like it as much then
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I had a similar situation with a bike I bought a couple months ago. It had a 120mm stem with 25" bars with a 1.5" rise. I'm 6'1" and it felt way too narrow. I ended up getting a shorter stem (60mm) and wider bars with a very small rise. Feels soo much better this way. Easier to control, and a lot more sturdy feeling.
These are the pieces I went with.

Stem
Amazon.com: Truvativ 60 0-Degree 42 Height 31.8 1-1/8 Hussefelt Stem (Blast Black): Sports & Outdoors

Bars - look around for these, I picked mine up for $25 shipped somewhere...
Amazon.com: Crank Brothers Cobalt 2 XC Riser Mountain Bicycle Handlebar: Sports & Outdoors
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I ride a 70mm 5deg stem with a 710mm bar. I'm happy on my xc
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