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Old 02-26-05, 02:01 PM
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Is Sram better that Shimano? I bought SRAM x.o shifters & x.9 der. good or bad? Does x.o compare to XTR? X.9 to XT?
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I bought the x9 a few months ago. I could not see paying dobule for the x0. but it is good stuff and ships well.
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Sram rocks, Shimano is trying to monopolize the market, down with shimano.
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I love SRAM stuff. Its so much cheaper than shimano and no better. I have the x.7 derailleur +shifters. You can get a set of shifters+derailleurs for 85. Try that with XT stuff. ANd its super smooth, ive never had better quality shifting. I dont like the dual control stuff either, i try to stay away from shimano.
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Oh and that X.0 compares to XTR and x.9 to XT is what the market would love you to believe. Its not true, if im not mistaken there is no performance difference between x.7 and x.9 I thinkt he shifters have a 2gram difference.
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Oh and that X.0 compares to XTR and x.9 to XT is what the market would love you to believe. Its not true, if im not mistaken there is no performance difference between x.7 and x.9 I thinkt he shifters have a 2gram difference.
So what does it compare to?
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WHy does it need to compare to something? X.7 is not even Srams "top of the line" and it shifts flawlessly, i could not imagine it any better. X.9 or other stuff would probably be only lighter
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Originally Posted by GT_ATB32
Is Sram better that Shimano? I bought SRAM x.o shifters & x.9 der. good or bad? Does x.o compare to XTR? X.9 to XT?
You already bought it and now you're asking the opinion of people on the internet? Good god.

The comparisons you listed are apt. The new SRAM triggers are going to be even better. Slight improvements in the ergonomics department that make quite a difference, really.
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Just a question, WHY did you start a new thread on this, it has been explained so many times it is not funny. There is a tool on these forums called search, try it.

Here is a page with the the threads already started about SRAM and Shimano, they have some good info in them, I would recommend reading some of them if you want to and some of them have the level comparisons.

https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=799368
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Just a question, WHY did you start a new thread on this, it has been explained so many times it is not funny. There is a tool on these forums called search, try it.
Works kinda like this.


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I don't get it, Raiyn... how do you search again? That explanation is a bit too technical for me.
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Robbed of title defense? At least you guys get to keep the Cup indefinitely...
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Robbed of title defense? At least you guys get to keep the Cup indefinitely...
We didn't even have a chance to raise the friggen banner. The team got their rings in the basement of the Forum. Yeah we might technically be the Champs to the end of this BS, but it's not like we can enjoy it.
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Hilarious, Raiyn. I just got done reading a thread where you ripped on a guy for bringing an old thread back to life. Now you're giving somebody heck for not doing a search through the older threads. That's sweet. Belligerent little Gary Coleman would be proud.

Seriously, though... do you know Hasselhoff?
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Originally Posted by Peek the Geek
Hilarious, Raiyn. I just got done reading a thread where you ripped on a guy for bringing an old thread back to life. Now you're giving somebody heck for not doing a search through the older threads. That's sweet. Belligerent little Gary Coleman would be proud.

Seriously, though... do you know Hasselhoff?
Here's the thing. I want them to read the old threads not reply to people who either aren't here anymore or could give a rotten ********* about the topic anymore.
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What the search function is for is so that you can go back and read about the topic, if you still have questions post a question in the old thread, don't write an answer to a question in the old thread.
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What the search function is for is so that you can go back and read about the topic, if you still have questions post a question in the old thread, don't write an answer to a question in the old thread.
Exactly. The old posts are a reference. I still say we need to put a time lock on them. As in they go read only past a certain age
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Raiyn,

but then the users who hate repeated posts would flip more than the people who hate old threads. Its an odd line to walk. Besides I am 90% sure there is in fact a purge point that gets eliminated (maybe not on this board actually)
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Works kinda like this.


Nothing personal enjoy

I can't find that orange arrow on my computer. I also can't find the "Any" key.
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We didn't even have a chance to raise the friggen banner. The team got their rings in the basement of the Forum. Yeah we might technically be the Champs to the end of this BS, but it's not like we can enjoy it.
Yeah, but Bettman's happy. Isn't it all worth it to know that? At least you have a chiampionchip-caliber team. My Hawks have no chance until they get sold.
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Here's the thing. I want them to read the old threads not reply to people who either aren't here anymore or could give a rotten ********* about the topic anymore.
Fair enough. But what if I did a search about, oh let's say SRAM vs Shimano toothbrushes, and found a thread that died a year ago that really helped answer most of my questions. Cool. I used the search function, Gary and David are happy, and the smell of roses fills the air.

But what if I still have a little question that hasn't quite been answered in the thread? I can't ask about it with a reply in that thread because I'll be lynched for bringing an old thread back to life. And I can't start a new thread because the topic has alreay been covered enough to warrant the classic "Use the Search Button" reply. Danged if I do, danged if I don't.

When you or anyone else comes across a post that you'd rather answer, wouldn't it make more sense to just not answer it, instead of wasting the time involved in coming up with and typing out a snide remark? True, your illustration was funny, but it probably made the person you directed it to feel like crap. And nobody likes to feel like crap (I know that, because I did a Search on "feeling crappy").
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Originally Posted by Raiyn
Works kinda like this.


Nothing personal enjoy
Hhahahahah
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Originally Posted by Peek the Geek
But what if I still have a little question that hasn't quite been answered in the thread? I can't ask about it with a reply in that thread because I'll be lynched for bringing an old thread back to life. And I can't start a new thread because the topic has alreay been covered enough to warrant the classic "Use the Search Button" reply. Danged if I do, danged if I don't.
Quite simple really. Use this example:
Originally Posted by Nodumb_User
I did a search on Underwater Basket Weaving, read through all the posts on the matter, and was wondering: What mixture do you use in your scuba tanks?
Simply by showing that you took the initiative to use the search function yourself and then still had a question to be asked (in a new thread) at least shows that you tried to get the answer yourself.
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Both SRAM and Shimano make good stuff. IMO, there are two clear advantages to SRAM. 1. Stronger spring in the rear der. works better in mud. 2. Power link chain allows easier chain maintenance.... both important here in Indiana where we have lots of opportunity to ride in muddy conditions.

I prefer trigger shifts so I was quite happy when SRAM came out with the X series of trigger shifts. For some reason the knuckle on my thumbs rub the collar on the grip shift and even biking gloves give me blisters. None of my buds have this problem. I like the simplicity of the grip shifts though. Am I the only one in the world who bangs up thumb knuckles on the grip shifts?
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Both SRAM and Shimano make good stuff. <snip>
So nice of you to actually READ THE LAST FEW POSTS.
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