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AngelFaith46 03-21-15 09:27 PM

What would you choose: Specialized, Trek, Devinci, Rocky Mountain?
 
Hello! I am a newbie and looking to buy a Hardtail 29er. I would be riding in the city and probably try some beginner trail. I have been looking at 4 bikes in my price range and shortlisted the following:

Specialized Crave 2014
2014 Specialized Crave 29 Bike - Reviews, Comparisons, Specs - Mountain Bikes - Vital MTB

Trek X-Caliber 9 2015
Trek X Caliber 9 2015

Devinci Wooky S 2015
DEVINCI

Rocky Mountain Trailhead 29 2015
Trailhead · Fusion · Soul · Flare 29 | Rocky Mountain Bicycles

I really need advice as to which will give me the best bang for the buck! Being new to this, i really can't say which one has better components. Any Advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Zephyr11 03-22-15 04:05 PM

Have you test ridden them all? They'll all have slightly different geometry, which means that some are more likely to fit you better than others, which will make for a better ride.

MisterK 03-22-15 05:59 PM

Zephyr is right about geometry but if it is solely decided on spec. The trek wins out imo with that sporty deore xt in the back.

Shuffleman 03-22-15 07:35 PM

The trek probably has a little better spec. However, the price and comfort would play a role into it. If there is a wide spread in price than it would help to better advise you. More importantly, which one do you like the most based on fit and feel.

AngelFaith46 03-22-15 08:02 PM

@Zephyr11 : I have ridden them but i think due to my lack of knowledge, i did not see any difference on them. That is why i decided to base my decision on spec.
@MisterK : I made a mistake on my inquiry and should have asked to rate the bikes instead.
@Shuffleman : The Trek is 200 bucks more than the others. So i just throw the trek in just for comparison. i did not see any difference on them. That is why i decided to base my decision on spec.

Shuffleman 03-22-15 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by AngelFaith46 (Post 17652973)
@Zephyr11 : I have ridden them but i think due to my lack of knowledge, i did not see any difference on them. That is why i decided to base my decision on spec.
@MisterK : I made a mistake on my inquiry and should have asked to rate the bikes instead.
@Shuffleman : The Trek is 200 bucks more than the others. So i just throw the trek in just for comparison. i did not see any difference on them. That is why i decided to base my decision on spec.

Assuming that none of them stood out, I would go with the one that looks the best. In my opinion, that would be the Davinci. Of course that is subjective. $200 for a slightly better rear derailer is not worth it in my book thu, i would eliminate the Trek.
They are all nice bikes though and you can't go wrong with any of them.

Canker 03-22-15 11:04 PM

Shimano brakes are a big + in my book.

cpach 03-23-15 01:11 AM

None of them look substantially different. I'd also consider Shimano brakes a plus also. Also, it's worth checking in whether the rims (and to a lesser extent the tires) are designed to be run tubeless, as that can make a big difference in performance. As far as I know, the Specialized has tubeless ready rims, and the Trek has tubeless ready rims and tires (probably just needs a valve stem and some sealant and good to go). The other two seem like they don't have tubeless ready rims--you can probably convert them, but it's more hassle and may not work as well. Also, for what it's worth, the Devinci is the only with a triple, though it's your call if that's a plus or minus. The bikes you're looking at should all be lots of fun.

Also, it's genuinely important (particularly if you're new to the sport) to pick the shop that will best help you. Factor in any services or discounts they may provide with sale when comparing shops. Some help dialing in the fit and the suspension could go a long way to getting you ripping harder sooner.

For what it's worth I ride a '13 Carve Expert and like it pretty well.

roccobike 03-23-15 07:31 AM

What cpach said. Be sure to rate the ability of the shop to support you. Find out what service they perform for free. Which shop are you most comfortable with. I'm not familiar with Devinci, but amongst the others, I'd say you can't go wrong, buy the one that you like the best. They're all nice bikes.

ColinL 03-23-15 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by osco53 (Post 17651026)

only double his original budget... :lol:

MisterK 03-23-15 09:29 AM

I didn't notice the trek was 200$ more. Keep in mind it probably has the best wheelset aswell with those sealed cartridge hubs making them very no fuss and buttery smooth. The rocky Mountain would be my next choice specs wise and that 300$ less is nice too.
I'd eliminate the specialized with its mix and match sram/shimano setup, not soo special wheels, and eww Tektro hydro brakes.

Zephyr11 03-23-15 04:30 PM

Trek has a nicer rear derailleur.
Specialized has the worst brakes.
Cpach, unless I'm reading it wrong, the Rocky Mountain has a triple, not the DaVinci. DaVinci, Specialized, and Trek all look like doubles to me. I don't know why you need a triple when you have 10 speed in the back, but whatever, that's preference.

cpach 03-23-15 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Zephyr11 (Post 17655528)
Trek has a nicer rear derailleur.
Specialized has the worst brakes.
Cpach, unless I'm reading it wrong, the Rocky Mountain has a triple, not the DaVinci. DaVinci, Specialized, and Trek all look like doubles to me. I don't know why you need a triple when you have 10 speed in the back, but whatever, that's preference.

Yeah you're right, my mistake. I also agree that triples are mostly not very useful with wide range 10sp cassettes. I only ever wish for one when my MTB is on asphalt, which isn't exactly my priority. Perhaps if I rode more rolling terrain--my normal ride profile is to climb a few thousand feet, then bomb down a few thousand feet, with only occasional grade reversals.

AngelFaith46 03-23-15 11:06 PM

Thank you Guys! Your inputs are all great! Anyone who wants to share their 2 cents are welcome.:)

Shuffleman 03-27-15 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by AngelFaith46 (Post 17656365)
Thank you Guys! Your inputs are all great! Anyone who wants to share their 2 cents are welcome.:)

What did you end up buying?

AngelFaith46 03-27-15 10:43 AM

I am still doing some research on the Devinci and the Rocky Mountain before I test ride them again. I guess the feel of the ride will be the deciding factor. The Devinci is 100 bucks more than the Rocky so its really hard to choose. And i wanna get the best back for the buck.

Shuffleman 03-27-15 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by AngelFaith46 (Post 17666953)
I am still doing some research on the Devinci and the Rocky Mountain before I test ride them again. I guess the feel of the ride will be the deciding factor. The Devinci is 100 bucks more than the Rocky so its really hard to choose. And i wanna get the best back for the buck.

I just went through a similiar process for a new mtb. I ended up doing something way different than I started though. I bought a 2015 Giant Revel intending to put a Deore Drive train on it (Merlin $200) and the same shock that is on the Trek that you are looking at ($200 at Merlin). I ended up buying the Revel though and switching out the shock through the Suntour customer loyalty program. I switched to the Raidon ($200 with shipping). I actually find that the drive train is much better than I thought so I decided to stick with it for now. I have ridden the RockShox 32 before and struggled with going for the Raidon. After riding the Raidon a few times, I am glad that I made that decision. It is not your typical Suntour fork. In addition, I sold the fork that came with the bike on ebay for $45. That drove the price of my shock down.
$550 for the Bike. $200 for the Raidon less $45 for my fork. That puts me at $705 for the bike. I still have plenty of room left in my original budget to get the Deore or SLX.
I will say that the brake on this bike is awful. This is my first disc brake and I am not impressed. My old mtb brakes were much better so I am going to have to look at that. Lots of options either way.

fietsbob 03-27-15 02:49 PM

No Brainer , only 1 Brand on your short List is sold Here.. But that shop has Trek RedLine and Felt

osco53 03-28-15 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by ColinL (Post 17653959)
only double his original budget... :lol:

Wow ok LOL I missed that,, double,,,ok... :P

Sorry bout that OP..

AngelFaith46 03-28-15 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by osco53 (Post 17670174)
Wow ok LOL I missed that,, double,,,ok... :P

Sorry bout that OP..


No problem, all suggestions are welcome!!!!!!

AngelFaith46 03-28-15 08:59 PM

I just got back from test ridding The Devinci Wooky S and the Rocky Mountain Trailhead 29. So i'll start with the Devinci, I tried the medium as suggested and the sales rep cut a bit in the saddle post to get the right saddle height for me. I went out and rode the bike for a while. i liked the 29 sized tires, the gear shifts smoothly and the brakes are good too. I also liked that the bike has a remote lock on the fork. I also liked the color and the total appeal of the bike. Having no experience with the mountain bike so i asked the Rep if my posture on the bike was good or am i little forward to the handle bar. And he said that i have a correct posture towards the bike. Over all i liked the Bike but i still have to see what the Rocky Mountain's fit and feel on me compared with the Wooky.


I head out to the second bike shop where they carry the RM Trailhead, The rep again suggested me to try the medium but this time the saddle post needs no alteration as he immediately lowered the saddle to the right height. I stepped outside and rode the bike. The first thing i noticed is that the handle bar is a little bit closer to me (which i really don't know what the effect on prolonged riding good or bad). The ride and the breaks are as good as the Devinci, though the gear on the RM does not shift as smoothly as the Devinci. I liked the bike as well but with the question in mind about the gear shifting.


To summarize, I am a little biased with the Devinci because I liked the color better and it has a remote lock on the fork though it is $100 more. The bike shop offered me 10% discount towards buying bike accessories so i have $130 to spend on accessories and 1 year free of service on bike flats and other adjustments.On the other hand the sales rep told me that because I am looking at a 2015 he cannot give me any discount. So please knock some sense out of me if the remote lock on the fork justifies the $100! But the discount towards accessories just even out the price difference. The RM's handle bar is closer to me in comparison with the Devinci, but I'm not saying there is awkwardness on either, i just don't know if closer is better or the other way around with prolonged riding. But for me the gear shifting on the Devinci is smoother. Please share your thoughts on my dilemma and help me make a better decision....Thank you in advance and apologies for my ignorance!!!!!!

BillinPA 03-29-15 06:11 AM

I have a Crave Comp that I really like. Great bike. It has the remote fork lock. Probably can't go wrong with any of the choices.

Canker 03-29-15 07:21 AM

The are both virtually identical spec wise. They both should have a lock out front fork by the specs but the Devinci is a remote lockout the RM has a slightly better rear derailleur other than that it comes down to which do you find more comfortable and which paint scheme do you like better. Lockout IMO is really only use full on the road and then you would just turn it on and leave it on so the remote wouldn't be a big selling point to me. I'm sure some people do use their lockout on the trail but I never do. Now you say the RM doesn't shift as well but that has nothing to do with the bike or the parts on it and just means it needs some adjustments by the LBS.

AngelFaith46 03-29-15 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Canker (Post 17671487)
The are both virtually identical spec wise. They both should have a lock out front fork by the specs but the Devinci is a remote lockout the RM has a slightly better rear derailleur other than that it comes down to which do you find more comfortable and which paint scheme do you like better. Lockout IMO is really only use full on the road and then you would just turn it on and leave it on so the remote wouldn't be a big selling point to me. I'm sure some people do use their lockout on the trail but I never do. Now you say the RM doesn't shift as well but that has nothing to do with the bike or the parts on it and just means it needs some adjustments by the LBS.

The sales rep pointed out to me that the devinci's rear derailleur has a stabilizer switch, does that mean it will perform better on the trail or still the rear derailleur on the RM still is slighty better ?

Canker 03-29-15 11:08 AM

Missed that. I guess I'd call it a wash :).
It is nice to have but it is only a $40 part so I wouldn't buy a bike just because of it. It pretty much stops chain slap and if you were running a single chain ring up front a clutched RD helps to stop chain drops. Chain slap is when the chain is bouncing all over the place and slapping against the frame, kind of annoying. Most people running a 1x setup are also going to run a narrow wide chainring up front which also pretty much stops chain drops even without a clutched RD.

http://guides.wiggle.co.uk/rear-dera...-buying-guide/
they cover them a bit down the page.

AngelFaith46 03-29-15 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Canker (Post 17672060)
Missed that. I guess I'd call it a wash :).
It is nice to have but it is only a $40 part so I wouldn't buy a bike just because of it. It pretty much stops chain slap and if you were running a single chain ring up front a clutched RD helps to stop chain drops. Chain slap is when the chain is bouncing all over the place and slapping against the frame, kind of annoying. Most people running a 1x setup are also going to run a narrow wide chainring up front which also pretty much stops chain drops even without a clutched RD.

Rear derailleurs buying guide | Wiggle Buyers Guides
they cover them a bit down the page.

Thanks for explaining this to me. i really appreciate it!!!!

WCroadie 04-05-15 09:32 AM

I have a 2015 crave pro, which I really like, any of the bikes you are considering should be fine, and 2nd that shimano brakes are a +

AngelFaith46 04-05-15 09:44 PM

Hi all! Due to an unexpected emergency I'm still waiting for some $$$$ to come in. So I'm still looking around for some alternative. Then I came across this :



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Frame: Hydroformed aluminum 6061 frame series
Fork: Rock Shox XC32, 100mm of travel
Rims: Mavic TN317 rims with Formula DC 20/22 hubs
Brakes: Avid Elixir 3 160/180mm rotors
Drive Train: SRAM X5 2X10 components kit
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or should i just wait and just go with the Rocky Mountain Trailhead 2015??? Thanks for sharing your thoughts.


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