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Old 09-15-16, 06:49 PM
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Seriously...Kissena/Cunningham Corridor?

I don't know why the specifics of this bike path seem to be such a secret, but I can't find a good guide to riding it anywhere. This weekend (9/17/16) I hope to explore it and write up a functional point-to-point description.

Unfortunately, not only can't I find definitive information about starting and ending points, I can't even find a straight answer as to whether this is a continuous bike path or just a few short park rides connected by busy Queens roads.

I want to take my wife, a very casual rider who's good for about 10-15 miles at the most, out for an easy, peaceful Autumn ride. We typically head up to the Bronx River Bikeway or right here to the Bethpage Bikeway on a weekend like this, but I'd like to mix it up a little more this year. I keep hearing about the "Kissena Corridor," which I've now learned is also called the "Cunningham Corridor," but I don't know where to find it, how to ride it, or if it's even worth the drive from eastern Nassau County.

Can someone tell me where to begin on the eastern end so that we can get in maybe five to seven miles on a continuous path (maybe one or two small street crossings wouldn't be bad) before heading back? Also, is the surface paved, or is there a lot of grass and narrow dirt strips, as I've seen in some photos?
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The bike ride along this corridor would partly be on a street; but you certainly couldn't call it a busy street.

The in-park portion starts in Kissena Park, at the corner of Kissena Boulevard and Rose Avenue. You take that path east. When it crosses 164th Street, it becomes a regular street, Underhill Avenue. But it is a very quiet street with houses only on the north side (to your left). On the south side of the street is the park.

You take Underhill a few blocks to where it dead-ends at 170th Street, and you go right to resume the in-park portion of the path. Take this, still going east, to where it ends at Utopia Parkway.

You will then have to turn left to go north for a half a block to get back to Underhill Avenue. The official New York City bike map says that you can use the west sidewalk of Utopia Parkway for this.

Then you will turn right at Underhill Avenue, and cross Utopia Parkway with the light. When you have crossed Utopia, you will find that Underhill has a painted green bike lane going east. This lane is flush with the curb; there is no parking on that side of the Underhill. And, here again, there are houses only on the other side of the street (the north side); the south side (the side that you'll be on) abuts the park.

Take Underhill all the way to just before it hits the L.I.E. service road; I believe the street there is 196th Street. There you will see on your right an entry back into the park, and a path that leads you onto a bridge over the L.I.E. From this point on, you are only on in-park paths.

This path continues, almost touching Francis Lewis Boulevard behind a high school, and then turning south to parallel Franny Lew. It is now the Vanderbilt Motor Parkway. Continue south on it, and it eventually turns left (east) and goes over Francis Lewis Boulevard.

It continues east until it ends at Alley Pond Park.

That trip is about five miles.

Here is a map of the route:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SR...es&usp=sharing

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Thanks, Ferdinand.

We would probably start west of the Vanderbilt Motor Parkway Trail (which we have ridden before) and head further west. The ride seems a little short that way, so I'd probably want to incorporate Flushing Meadow Park into it. One of the websites says that you can start the corridor ride near a playground within Flushing Meadow Park? Do you know if we can connect Kissena and FM without dealing with 108th Street or something crazy like that?
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OK, I think I've got it. We're going to start in front of the Fresh Meadows Jewish Center on Peck Avenue and follow Ferdinand's on-road/off-road route (backwards) all the way to Flushing Meadow Park. This will be short, but it will cover several streets and sites that go way back to both our childhoods, visiting our aunts and uncles in their Flushing houses and apartments. We will probably also explore Kissena Lake and the Velodrome for the first time, and we always spend an hour or two just riding Flushing Meadow Park itself.

I'm looking forward to this new ride and will report back!

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Back from the ride. It was pretty good, but I have some questions and I need to improve on the cue sheet, if possible, so please read to the end.

Here's what we did:

We parked in front of the Fresh Meadows Jewish Center and headed north on Peck Avenue, riding parallel to the park. I guess we could have used the park paths, but they didn't appear to be continuous for any worthwhile distance. After crossing 58th Ave and 188 St., we crossed Utopia, turned right, and rode the sidewalk (I hate doing that, but this wasn't the last time all day) until we reached the bike path on the left.


We took the path across Fresh Meadow Lane and continued riding along the golf course. Nice little section. At the end (170th St) we made a left onto Underhill Avenue.

At the end of Underhill, we crossed 164th and entered Kissena Park, which was an amazing surprise. My wife sort of remembers this park from her childhood in Astoria, but I can't believe I've been a Long Islander all my life and never knew about this place. We looped around the lake, but never found the velodrome, where I'm sure I could have lapped her a few times. Eventually, we headed toward the baseball fields and exited the park at Rose St. and Kissena Blvd.

We then crossed Kissena and took a short path to Peck Avenue, where we made a right. Peck led us to 151st St, where we continued straight onto a bike path, which led us to a soccer field that brought back tons of memories from my childhood. My favorite cousins lived on 56th Rd and used to take us to this field back in the 60's. I spent what seemed like many hours playing in the concrete stands, which look exactly the same to me 50 years later.

Anyway, after circling the field, we turned left toward 56th Rd, went up the little hill, and turned right onto 56th Rd. Shortly after passing Aunt Josie's old front porch (from where we supposedly listened to the Beatles at Shea Stadium in 1965), we came across an entrance (at 146th St) to a path that was signed as "Kissena Corridor Park." My directions read that I should continue on 56th Rd all the way to 142nd St, but I needed to see if this might be a good off-road shortcut to somewhere. I took off on my own to explore and soon found that it only went across the park to Colden Street, which wasn't on my cue sheet. I did see a dirt path veering off in the direction of 142nd St - and I do see that same path on Google Maps now, but it didn't seem like one to ride with anything but a mountain bike, so I rejoined my wife on 56th Rd and we continued toward 142nd St.

QUESTION 1: Did I miss something here? Is there actually a paved path that heads west toward 142nd St? Google Maps also shows paths leading from the soccer field to this point, but I did not see them when we rode through.

Anyway, at 142nd St, we turned right and then veered left onto 56th Avenue. This all looks exactly as it did when I last visited Aunt Josie in the 80's.

Now this is where the (small) problem began. As we approached Booth Memorial Hospital (or whatever they call it now) and Main Street, I noticed that 56th became a one way going against us. We had already ridden sidewalks a little more than I felt comfortable with, but there was no way I was riding against traffic on a busy road like this, so we turned right and found Peck Avenue, where we turned left. Then we were lost, as the streets started zig-zagging each other and I couldn't figure out how to make the 137th/Booth Memorial connection on my cue sheet. Now I see that we should have just continued on Elder Avenue all the way to Booth.

Question2: Could we have ridden our bikes through the Queens Botanical Garden and just crossed the pedestrian bridge into Flushing Meadow Park? We would have even paid the $6 fee to avoid the traffic from here to the park.

Eventually, we found our way to College Point Blvd, crossed it, and entered FMP at the Lawrence Playground. The ride around Flushing Meadow was its usual pleasure, especially riding around the Unisphere and getting soaked by the mist. I also see they are making repairs to the Meadow Lake path in bits and pieces. (2024 Olympics, maybe???)

So, with a few one way streets to deal with on the way back, we ended up compromising and riding/walking bikes along the sidewalk a few times. I'll have to eliminate those for the next ride.

Anyway, I'm glad we did this, and I look forward to improving on it the next time around. Mostly, if I bring my wife again, I'd like to stay off the roads a little more, if possible. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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You need to go in the opposite direction as well and take the old motor parkway from Cunningham to Alleypond Park
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Originally Posted by dendawg
You need to go in the opposite direction as well and take the old motor parkway from Cunningham to Alleypond Park
I've done the Motor Parkway several times. It's too hilly for my wife, but I'd like to incorporate it into my next "Corridor" ride.

By any chance, can you answer either of the questions above?
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Originally Posted by Papa Tom
I've done the Motor Parkway several times. It's too hilly for my wife, but I'd like to incorporate it into my next "Corridor" ride.

By any chance, can you answer either of the questions above?
I moved out of Queens in 1999. Since then the only times I've ridden through have been on the Five Boro Bike walk :-) or the few times I've done the NYC Marathon pre race ride
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Originally Posted by dendawg
I moved out of Queens in 1999. Since then the only times I've ridden through have been on the Five Boro Bike walk :-) or the few times I've done the NYC Marathon pre race ride
That's right. I think you told me that once before. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
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