Glen Cove Waterfront Bikeway
08-25-12, 12:04 PM
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Glen Cove Waterfront Bikeway
Not officially opened to the Public yet, but the rear gate was left unlocked. I went in at night and shot a few photographs:
This connects to the other part of the path, which has been open for about ten years. The construction of a new Glen Cove Marina and Ferry Terminal had part of the Bike Path blocked for a few years.
The front gates (Ferry Terminal) are still closed. Access is via the Beach Parking lot at the end of Garvies Point Road.
This connects to the other part of the path, which has been open for about ten years. The construction of a new Glen Cove Marina and Ferry Terminal had part of the Bike Path blocked for a few years.
The front gates (Ferry Terminal) are still closed. Access is via the Beach Parking lot at the end of Garvies Point Road.
08-25-12, 03:10 PM
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This isn't a "Bikeway" regardless of what they want to call it. It's a sidewalk.
In my mind, a "Bikeway" is like a Bikepath and is something useful that actually lets you go somewhere. This looks pretty but is maybe what ?, a mile ?, two?. If it went over to the Landing, or Crescent Beach, or maybe down along Rt 107 to Glenhead, then OK, it's useful.
Thanks for the pic's though.
In my mind, a "Bikeway" is like a Bikepath and is something useful that actually lets you go somewhere. This looks pretty but is maybe what ?, a mile ?, two?. If it went over to the Landing, or Crescent Beach, or maybe down along Rt 107 to Glenhead, then OK, it's useful.
Thanks for the pic's though.
08-26-12, 11:59 AM
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This isn't a "Bikeway" regardless of what they want to call it. It's a sidewalk.
In my mind, a "Bikeway" is like a Bikepath and is something useful that actually lets you go somewhere. This looks pretty but is maybe what ?, a mile ?, two?. If it went over to the Landing, or Crescent Beach, or maybe down along Rt 107 to Glenhead, then OK, it's useful.
Thanks for the pic's though.
In my mind, a "Bikeway" is like a Bikepath and is something useful that actually lets you go somewhere. This looks pretty but is maybe what ?, a mile ?, two?. If it went over to the Landing, or Crescent Beach, or maybe down along Rt 107 to Glenhead, then OK, it's useful.
Thanks for the pic's though.
Oops! Sorry, "Bikeway" is what I called it. I think officially, it's called a Multi-Use Path.
There are several un-connected sections. There is also the section from the Garvies Point Boat Ramp to the "Old Dutch Shipwreck" (which has the masts of the Regina Maris, but a fake hull).
Then there is the Pratt Park section, which has been there almost two years. The Pratt Park section is one sixth of a mile in length. Here are some photos of Pratt Park, taken last October:
So now, they are completing the connector portion of the trail.
You want a path to Crescent Beach? Have you tried the paths at Welwyn Preserve? There is an unlocked gate leading into the trails at Welwyn, off off the New Woods Road side of the Preserve.
Crescent Beach is locked with a monstrous steel gate at night, and my touring bike is too heavy to lift over it. I don't know why such a big gate for such a tiny beach, it doesn't make sense. The Parking Lot at Crescent Beach needs to be repaved . But it's a dead end road. Try riding in the middle of Crescent Beach Road?
NY rt. 107 , Cedar Swamp Road, has a full shoulder. The speed limit is 55mph, yes. But I have a SMV sign on my bike, and I use a rear view mirror.
The Landing is hilly , good place for a hill workout. And you can always stop at the Landing Bakery if you want to do some "Carbo Loading" , heh heh...
PS-"Glen Head" is two words.
08-26-12, 12:03 PM
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Two more photos. Keep in mind , it is a Ferry Terminal, with Bicycle Access. A Ferry Terminal, assuming the City of Glen Cove can get $62 million dollars from the state...
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Apologies for the attitude. Tom is correct that some cynicism rubbed off. Partly as it seems from the descriptions to be a series of disjointed waterfront bike path's that don't really go anywhere - I.E. help the local riders maybe ride their roads in safety. I like bike paths. but to get me interested they have to go for some distance to make me want to go out of my way to ride them. I'm all in favor of on-street bike lanes, even if they are on busy 107, as anything that indicates to motorists that the roads are shared with bikes are a good thing. I actually don't mind 107 and also ride 106 on occasion south from Rt25 to around the old Main Maid Inn. Possibly my years out west where often times the only route was sometimes an Interstate !.
So a question and coming from someone that currently lives on the south shore, but who lived in both Glen Cove as well as Locust Valley for 10 years (and who's wife is from GC), how extensive is the path(s) and is it going to be worth detouring on a north shore ride to check out. I really liked the area, but often times skip the waterfront, as it's a dead end.
As to the ferry ?. We'll see. It's been tried before and suffered from inadequate ridership that could not help sustain the operation. I agree that any method to make it easier for a commuter to get out of that area is a good thing, but the state not only has to cough up $62 million, but needs to sustain the funding. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. There are more then a few ferry systems around the metro area that went under due to lack of funding, Rockaways to NYC and lower Brooklyn is one that comes to mind. Ferries often are too expensive to operate in area's that are served by other modes of transportation in competition. It is a pretty way to get to work though !,
SB
Apologies for the attitude. Tom is correct that some cynicism rubbed off. Partly as it seems from the descriptions to be a series of disjointed waterfront bike path's that don't really go anywhere - I.E. help the local riders maybe ride their roads in safety. I like bike paths. but to get me interested they have to go for some distance to make me want to go out of my way to ride them. I'm all in favor of on-street bike lanes, even if they are on busy 107, as anything that indicates to motorists that the roads are shared with bikes are a good thing. I actually don't mind 107 and also ride 106 on occasion south from Rt25 to around the old Main Maid Inn. Possibly my years out west where often times the only route was sometimes an Interstate !.
So a question and coming from someone that currently lives on the south shore, but who lived in both Glen Cove as well as Locust Valley for 10 years (and who's wife is from GC), how extensive is the path(s) and is it going to be worth detouring on a north shore ride to check out. I really liked the area, but often times skip the waterfront, as it's a dead end.
As to the ferry ?. We'll see. It's been tried before and suffered from inadequate ridership that could not help sustain the operation. I agree that any method to make it easier for a commuter to get out of that area is a good thing, but the state not only has to cough up $62 million, but needs to sustain the funding. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. There are more then a few ferry systems around the metro area that went under due to lack of funding, Rockaways to NYC and lower Brooklyn is one that comes to mind. Ferries often are too expensive to operate in area's that are served by other modes of transportation in competition. It is a pretty way to get to work though !,
SB
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08-27-12, 09:39 AM
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Apologies for the attitude. Tom is correct that some cynicism rubbed off. Partly as it seems from the descriptions to be a series of disjointed waterfront bike path's that don't really go anywhere - I.E. help the local riders maybe ride their roads in safety. I like bike paths. but to get me interested they have to go for some distance to make me want to go out of my way to ride them. I'm all in favor of on-street bike lanes, even if they are on busy 107, as anything that indicates to motorists that the roads are shared with bikes are a good thing. I actually don't mind 107 and also ride 106 on occasion south from Rt25 to around the old Main Maid Inn. Possibly my years out west where often times the only route was sometimes an Interstate !.
So a question and coming from someone that currently lives on the south shore, but who lived in both Glen Cove as well as Locust Valley for 10 years (and who's wife is from GC), how extensive is the path(s) and is it going to be worth detouring on a north shore ride to check out. I really liked the area, but often times skip the waterfront, as it's a dead end.
As to the ferry ?. We'll see. It's been tried before and suffered from inadequate ridership that could not help sustain the operation. I agree that any method to make it easier for a commuter to get out of that area is a good thing, but the state not only has to cough up $62 million, but needs to sustain the funding. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. There are more then a few ferry systems around the metro area that went under due to lack of funding, Rockaways to NYC and lower Brooklyn is one that comes to mind. Ferries often are too expensive to operate in area's that are served by other modes of transportation in competition. It is a pretty way to get to work though !,
SB
Apologies for the attitude. Tom is correct that some cynicism rubbed off. Partly as it seems from the descriptions to be a series of disjointed waterfront bike path's that don't really go anywhere - I.E. help the local riders maybe ride their roads in safety. I like bike paths. but to get me interested they have to go for some distance to make me want to go out of my way to ride them. I'm all in favor of on-street bike lanes, even if they are on busy 107, as anything that indicates to motorists that the roads are shared with bikes are a good thing. I actually don't mind 107 and also ride 106 on occasion south from Rt25 to around the old Main Maid Inn. Possibly my years out west where often times the only route was sometimes an Interstate !.
So a question and coming from someone that currently lives on the south shore, but who lived in both Glen Cove as well as Locust Valley for 10 years (and who's wife is from GC), how extensive is the path(s) and is it going to be worth detouring on a north shore ride to check out. I really liked the area, but often times skip the waterfront, as it's a dead end.
As to the ferry ?. We'll see. It's been tried before and suffered from inadequate ridership that could not help sustain the operation. I agree that any method to make it easier for a commuter to get out of that area is a good thing, but the state not only has to cough up $62 million, but needs to sustain the funding. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. There are more then a few ferry systems around the metro area that went under due to lack of funding, Rockaways to NYC and lower Brooklyn is one that comes to mind. Ferries often are too expensive to operate in area's that are served by other modes of transportation in competition. It is a pretty way to get to work though !,
SB
The Ferry? I hope it doesn't go-under (pardon the pun). Remember there are Three Long Island Rail Road stations in Glen Cove, and there is competition in the form of an Express Bus:
....which takes paying customers to and from the St. Patrick's RC Church Parking Lot.
Yes, I would like to see a Bike Lane on Rt. 107, but who knows when that is going to happen.
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