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Old 06-26-17, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Yeah, that section. I guess my question is "Is it dangerous to take it 40 mph like I used too ?".
Depends on the bike. On a MTB... sure. On a very light road bike... yes.
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Anybody ridden Old Country Rd. east of Round Swamp ?,

I believe oldnslw indicated it was in terrible condition this past spring, so was wondering if they did any repairs.

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It's pretty rough in "that section", especially in the right hand portion of the lane, going downhill eastbound. Once past the church it's good. Remember also a guy got killed by a left-turner right by said church, 2 years ago was it?.

I went through there today on my way to Smithtown. Attempted to ride my just-reached age of 57, and beat it by 3. Gorgeous day.
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Originally Posted by kaos joe
It's pretty rough in "that section", especially in the right hand portion of the lane, going downhill eastbound. Once past the church it's good. Remember also a guy got killed by a left-turner right by said church, 2 years ago was it?.

I went through there today on my way to Smithtown. Attempted to ride my just-reached age of 57, and beat it by 3. Gorgeous day.
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Saw you guys chatting about the turnstile at Tobay a few pages back. Didn't go too far back in the threads to see if the following was already mentioned but google: "Peter Hawkins/Malverne resident/LIHerald". I'd post a link myself but since my first post this be I'm not allowed to do so yet. Reason the turnstile was finally removed.
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You have to mention "tobay" in that search as well.
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Originally Posted by hightide
Saw you guys chatting about the turnstile at Tobay a few pages back. Didn't go too far back in the threads to see if the following was already mentioned but google: "Peter Hawkins/Malverne resident/LIHerald". I'd post a link myself but since my first post this be I'm not allowed to do so yet. Reason the turnstile was finally removed.
Already posted.


Rode to Oyster Bay today...
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Oh I knew you posted the picture....I just didn't see any of you mentioning the paralyzed athlete from Malverne who had to threaten to sue after months of getting no help from the town. Were you aware of that whole situation? Just curious.
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never mind....just found a thread where it was covered already back since 2015....
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Originally Posted by hightide
Oh I knew you posted the picture....I just didn't see any of you mentioning the paralyzed athlete from Malverne who had to threaten to sue after months of getting no help from the town. Were you aware of that whole situation? Just curious.
Yes, I at least saw the thread and I assume that was you. A hero in my book, if only for getting the town of OB to do the right thing, which politicians and their cronies have a habit of not doing.

At every visit now to the bathroom there, I make a habit of ignoring the "No bike beyond this point" to take my bike down to the tables, use the bathrooms, take a break, etc.. just out of principal.
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[QUOTE=Steve B.;19684166]Yes, I at least saw the thread and I assume that was you. A hero in my book, if only for getting the town of OB to do the right thing, which politicians and their cronies have a habit of not doing.

I'm not Mr. Hawkins. I just by chance found this forum/thread and when OLDSLOW2 posted the pic of the gateless Tobay entrance I thought I'd chime in. As a younger person who's aware of a supposed migration of young people from the island this whole situation represents a larger issue. I can afford to live here so affordable housing isn't a reason for me to leave. A lack of things for professional young people to do such as cycling however is. And people of all ages really. Bike trails/lanes everywhere in Manhattan, Brooklyn and upstate but Long Island builds a trail at the beach to a dead end. While also managing to discriminate against the handicapped. A bike trail to a beach that's deeply involved in a corruption case involving their own concession stands no less. And here I am posting this on a day when another bunch of these guys are all surrendering over corruption charges. Welcome to Long Island!
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Originally Posted by hightide
A bike trail to a beach that's deeply involved in a corruption case involving their own concession stands no less. And here I am posting this on a day when another bunch of these guys are all surrendering over corruption charges. Welcome to Long Island!
You mean, Welcome to Nassau County.
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Finally, I put aside my Soma cross bike and rode the Trek Plastic Fantastic for the first time in a while. Went out with the faster Borella Field group at 830am for 51 miles up circuitously through Bayville/Centre Island. FYI, West Shore Rd. is still closed, not passable even on foot (heavy equipment in use), at least today.

Recently we were posting about the hazardously rough section of Old Country Rd; today the group used a bypass of the worst section I had not used before. We turned right off of Old Country onto Bensin; left onto East Mall Dr, followed it as it looped around; right on Treeview; left on Tuxedo. This brings one back to Old Country east of the worst section, although there are still a few more craters to watch for. These are rolling extremely low-traffic roads through a very beautiful neighborhood also.
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Originally Posted by kaos joe
Finally, I put aside my Soma cross bike and rode the Trek Plastic Fantastic for the first time in a while. Went out with the faster Borella Field group at 830am for 51 miles up circuitously through Bayville/Centre Island. FYI, West Shore Rd. is still closed, not passable even on foot (heavy equipment in use), at least today.

Recently we were posting about the hazardously rough section of Old Country Rd; today the group used a bypass of the worst section I had not used before. We turned right off of Old Country onto Bensin; left onto East Mall Dr, followed it as it looped around; right on Treeview; left on Tuxedo. This brings one back to Old Country east of the worst section, although there are still a few more craters to watch for. These are rolling extremely low-traffic roads through a very beautiful neighborhood also.
This is also good in reverse, sort of, if you are westbound on the service road. At Whitman, right and immediate left onto Cottontail, then E Mall and Bensin. It's nice if you want to cut over to Round Swamp and head north.

Hilly little sections though, we called it "The Bunny F**k".
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And people of all ages really. Bike trails/lanes everywhere in Manhattan, Brooklyn and upstate but Long Island builds a trail at the beach to a dead end. While also managing to discriminate against the handicapped. A bike trail to a beach that's deeply involved in a corruption case involving their own concession stands no less. And here I am posting this on a day when another bunch of these guys are all surrendering over corruption charges. Welcome to Long Island!
Nassau and to a lesser extent, Suffolk have no plans nor interest for the most part, in expanding the infrastructure for cycling, as NYC has done. Probably the single biggest reason is the politicians and county planning folks know that the population is wedded to their cars and don't have a huge desire to share roads with bikes.

As well, it's a huge hodgepodge of state, county, town(s) and local municipal roads that all need to be coordinated and on-board in order for on-street lanes to be created. That's a huge difference then what NYC deals with, where it's mostly the occasional local planning board that might disagree.

As to the JB - Captree path, yes it dead ends currently at Tobay, but is supposed to get extended out to Captree, possibly starting in 2021. The State is building it and ran into legal challenges from folks in Gilgo. Then ran out of money and were going to not do any of it, then the president of CLIMB (along with others) suggested just to Tobay as that's what the state had money for.

And don't forget that the state did extend the Bethpage path 5.5 miles north towards Woodbury a few years back.
There was NIMBY'ism on that as well as they wanted to use the never built Seaford-Oyster Bay right-of-way from Jericho Tpk. north to Syosett until the residents in a neighborhood nearby fought it. Go figure, as typically having things like bike and MUP's nearby adds improves the neighborhood as well as housing values. Now the path changes to on-street marked bike lanes up to Syosset and the CSH LIRR stations.

Better then nothing
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
This is also good in reverse, sort of, if you are westbound on the service road. At Whitman, right and immediate left onto Cottontail, then E Mall and Bensin. It's nice if you want to cut over to Round Swamp and head north. Hilly little sections though, we called it "The Bunny F**k".
Cool....... unlike, apparently, yourself, I'd never been through there before. I'm going to try that reverse route too.

I guess I have to get up earlier to Stump The Steve!
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Cool....... unlike, apparently, yourself, I'd never been through there before. I'm going to try that reverse route too.

I guess I have to get up earlier to Stump The Steve!
Well note that you head up north of Northport to sections I rarely venture, mostly as they have hills and I avoid hills !
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Car crashes onto Jones Beach Bike Path

Yesterday 6/29/17 just before 4 PM I'm driving south on the Wantagh Parkway and I notice police and an ambulance at the bike path just south of the middle bridge. Then I see the undercarriage of a car lying on its side on the path.

Stopped on my morning ride today and took a couple of pictures. Long skid marks across all lanes, the barrier cables and stanchions ripped out of the ground and oil stains over half the path. I haven't seen any media coverage so I assume no one got hit.

That barrier was built, the whole length of the parkway, after a cyclist got killed by an out of control motorcycle (drunk) that left the roadway and hit the poor guy.
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Has OldnSlow been wielding the Shovel of Righteousness again? Someone has cleaned out the sand from the problem spot at the B'page circle. THANKS to whomever it was!

Today was the Ancient Mariner Century to Montauk. No go for us this time, as I have to work this evening. Just as well, I found the humidity unpleasant enough on the short 34 miler we took, to our customary lunch spot in Cold Spring Harbor. We will probably do a Montauk run later this year.
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It wasn't me, but I did see someone did it.

Headed to Kings Park and thought about hitting Tobay. But I took a break at Brands and then couldn't get motivated to do 20 more miles, so I just headed home.
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Rode to Greenlawn with out of Bethpage. Heard that Charlie Postler crashed yesterday and is still in the hospital.

Get well soon Charlie.

Dee took the lead and it was a nice small group of 7. 40 miles and luckily the breeze kept the temps comfortable.
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We had a bunch of fellow riders over last night for pizza, and then walked up the street to a local fireworks display. Actually it was a scam, 'cause I knew most of them would bring some quality beer, and it worked. I'm set for the summer.

Some of us got up early for a beat the heat ride, and some slept in to do the usual 830. We went early & rode up into the East Northport area, 42 miles. New to me was getting on Bagatelle Rd at the northern end, climbing up that hill which crests at the LIE, and then descending like a dropped anvil all the way back to Colonial Springs. Everybody was sure to get behind our tandem on that stretch.

Happy 4th!
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After reading from other cyclists about the boardwalk in the Rockaways I rode out from Western Nassau County to Breezy Point and back. They did a beautiful job on the boardwalk. A really nice ride! One quick question why do the bike lanes run along the north side of the boardwalk rather in the middle like it is in LB. Nevertheless I will be riding there more often rather then the 30 min drive to the Bethpage MUP
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We had a bunch of fellow riders over last night for pizza, and then walked up the street to a local fireworks display. Actually it was a scam, 'cause I knew most of them would bring some quality beer, and it worked. I'm set for the summer.

Some of us got up early for a beat the heat ride, and some slept in to do the usual 830. We went early & rode up into the East Northport area, 42 miles. New to me was getting on Bagatelle Rd at the northern end, climbing up that hill which crests at the LIE, and then descending like a dropped anvil all the way back to Colonial Springs. Everybody was sure to get behind our tandem on that stretch.

Happy 4th!
Yup, Bagatelle DOWNHILL is much more fun. We come back on the service road and cut down to Colonial Springs, then over to 110, SUNY Farmingdale, then up Powell to Rnd Swamp, etc.. I just wish there as an alternative to go east somewhere just south of the LIE in this area of Suffolk. Haven't found it yet.
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Over the long weekend I somehow ended up going to Long Island for three consecutive days. This was after riding through the Bronx and Westchester on Friday on my way to and from Connecticut (a 70-mile round-trip); so the first thing that I appreciated was how mercifully flat the south shore of Long Island is.

On Sunday I went to Long Beach by bike for the first time. I found that you can ride over the bridge on Long Beach Road from Island Park; but then on the way home I encountered the absurd rule that requires walking the bike over the perfectly ridable Atlantic Beach Bridge back towards the Five Towns and the Rockaways.

I thought about taking the risk of riding on the Atlantic Beach Bridge side path, as I saw some people doing that. But I didn't want to be a sitting duck for cops. I saw one guy riding on the far right of the the regular northbound traffic lanes; this tempted me to do that, since that guy had a baby in a baby seat. (It looked manageable enough; but I wonder how that guy fared when he got to the toll booths on the other side.)

Long Beach itself was pretty quaint. There is a two-mile-long bike path on the boardwalk, right in the centre. It's marked not by paint, but by the orientation of the boards. It was interesting to see the luxurious-looking apartment buildings with pools that look out onto the boardwalk. (Even though I didn't notice any easy access to the beach from these buildings, I imagine that they must have that somewhere.)

I was a little surprised to see only a few restaurants and bars on the boardwalk. There were also no places to eat or drink on the streets in that part of town. This was puzzling; but then I got down to the west end of town, and I saw all the cool places on Beech Street.

Worthy of note is the fact that the drivers were polite down there; it wasn't the usual Long Island / New York City-style of *******ry. That made the wandering around town pretty pleasant.

Going down to Long Beach I took Rockaway Boulevard all the way into the Five Towns where it becomes Rockaway Turnpike. I don't think I had done that before (or at least not for several decades). I usually leave Rockaway Boulevard at 147th Avenue to go east. It was alright. There was plenty of traffic, which had the paradoxical effect of making the travel easier for me on my bike. Because of the fact that traffic was moving so slowly, I could keep up with it; so I was able to take the lane rather than riding all the way to the right.

Coming back, I broke off of Rockaway Boulevard at Brookville Boulevard. I do not recommend this, as that street going north of Rockaway Boulevard is one lane in either direction with no shoulder. The whole trip was 52 miles.

The next day I rode down to Jones Beach. I see in this thread that a car breached the bike path. That is chilling! Indeed, there is a statue in the park in Wantagh commemmorating a bicyclist who was killed by a driver on the Jones Beach bike path in a similar incident.

Still, while I was riding on that stretch of bike lane parallelling the Wantagh Parkway, I was thinking that all highways should have adjacent bike lanes. I think of this also whenever I am on the Shore Parkway bike path that is right next to the Belt Parkway, and when I am on Joe Michael's Mile that is right next to the Cross Island Expressway. Bike access to highways should be standard.

Anyway, I utilised some of the advice I have received here in past years in order to avoid Merrick Road on the way out (Lakeview Avenue, Seaman Avenue, and that sort of thing); and then I did another route on the way back, involving streets such as Beltagh Avenue and Nassau Road. That trip totalled 64 miles.

I am shooting for 1000 miles in July for the fifth straight year; so that means an average of a little over 30 miles a day. For this reason, I might be making a few more jaunts out to explore your Isle of Long. I already know that I have to miss a day next week when my bike will be in the shop for a repair; so I have to make up for that. On the other hand, I might have a couple of 100-mile days in my near future.

This truly is the best time of year! I live all year just dreaming of and waiting for the summer; and I feel at my absolute best during this season. So, now that the summer is here, I really want to drink it in.

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Originally Posted by Steve B.
Yup, Bagatelle DOWNHILL is much more fun. We come back on the service road and cut down to Colonial Springs, then over to 110, SUNY Farmingdale, then up Powell to Rnd Swamp, etc......
If you have not done it yet, when westbound on Colonial Springs, (which becomes Ruland Rd), hang a left (south) on Deshon Dr., (the first left after Pinelawn Rd). Check out the new Hindu temple on Deshon. Believe me, you can't miss it. We took a turn into their access road which loops past the entrance. The ornateness of the structure is amazing.

You can then turn right (west) on Marcus, left on Republic/New Hwy, and right on Smith St which will bring you to SUNY.

Something tells me you've done this already and I have again failed
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