Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17085943)

It's obvious that thousands of New York City cyclists who know and accept this are wrong.

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17085943)

Now I'm going to finish my coffee and hit the hamster wheel! After all it's NYC and the only way I can get my intervals in is on the trainer...lmao

Originally Posted by mx22 (Post 17078209)

Hello,

I was wondering where/how people who live in NYC train on bikes? I find it hard/next to impossible to find a long stretch of even relatively empty road to do the intervals. There is plenty of space for easy rides, but I'm yet to find space where I can do 3+ minute 'all out' intervals in relative safety for myself and people around me. I'm in Brooklyn, within 10-15min easy bike ride from Verrazano bridge bikeway and this is probably the best place I found so far; but it is still way too busy (plus bike path itself in places has these huge holes that if you hit and ended up only with a puncture, it was your lucky day) for me to even start thinking of pushing hard - I always have to be lookout for other people or the road ahead of me. Are indoor trainers is the only way to go?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17085542)

The OP asked about NYC not NYC area. So you're wrong on that. I am not saying it isn't a viable path, but it is NOT NYC. You can jump through whatever hoops you like and parse your point by saying is is "part of NYC cycling" but the OP asked about NYC not "NYCish" or the NYC area. I am sure there are also plenty of other areas in Nuyack, Rockland, and North Jersey that you can also illegitimately call "NYC Cycling" but I answered what the OP asked, and your contradiction is patently wrong.

As for CP and PP, I was on each a several times this summer nice and early, and your statement may have been true a while back. But every time I cycle there at 6:00AM or thereabouts, I never fail to pass joggers and cyclists with ear buds in their ears oblivious to their surroundings. I had one guy at EXACTLY 6:15 AM change his line abruptly in front of me while I was doing about 17 MPH and I almost slammed right into him. So if you feel safe at 20+ MPH, that's your business. Maybe you will go your entire life and nothing will happen, but even at that time, I have had way too many close calls with ear-bud-a$$-holes to be as footloose and fancy-free with the speed in those areas.

Hopefully this will never bite you in the a$$, and I really mean that. But I won't take the chance given what I have seen and experienced in those parks even during the wee hours of the AM.

Never did the Jamaica Bay loop. Where is it? Would love to try it.

Is The Bronx even 40 miles north-south? It may be, and if it is, where is the path you speak of. Would love to check it our.

Bear Mountain is NOT part of NYC. And either is Jersey. Call it the New York Area, and you are right, but NYC has 5 boroughs and ONLY 5 boroughs. So you're wrong. Not about these being great places to cycle, but about them being NYC, and no amount of equivocation on your part will change that.

Originally Posted by AristoNYC (Post 17086137)

I'm sorry but I don't agree with you at all. The OP asked WHERE OR HOW people who live in NYC train, he didn't say WHERE IN NYC do you train. I live in Manhattan and travel anywhere to get a good ride if I have to, especially when its close to the city. Sometimes as @UnfilteredDregs said, it takes going over the bridge into NJ/NY area of Rockland.

Originally Posted by AristoNYC (Post 17086137)

Also in regards to your comment about joggers and such in Central Park, if you're attentive and assume (which I always do) that people will change paths like idiots (which most of them are) you can ride safely. I can ride relatively fast even on weekend afternoons.

Cheers,
Aristo

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17088871)

You're just jealous because my posted pic actually had some humor and thought to it and yours was just reprocessed, regurgitated forum-banner pablum. :p

Originally Posted by Mvcrash (Post 17088942)

Please enlighten the uneducated as to what "reprocessed, regurgitated,forum-banner pablum" would be?

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17088871)

You're just jealous because my posted pic actually had some humor and thought to it and yours was just reprocessed, regurgitated forum-banner pablum. :p

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17089678)

Word.

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17089875)

lol, Okay, seriously, truce, okay? :)

I am enjoying arguing with you a lot, but regardless of what you and I may disagree about, I get the feeling I could learn a lot from you, given your knowledge of cycling in the area, your obviously good fitness level, and your savvy about bikes and equipment. In short, while forum fights are fun, I really am done arguing with you and I would rather benefit from your experience in areas I could improve, and agree to disagree in areas where we have different opinions.

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17090020)

Uh... Water off this duck's back. I stated common fact/knowledge for the area, and you got your bibs in a twist over it. Whatever, I have a grill to tend.

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17091115)

Uh, yeah, positions...sure. I'll just stick to the facts, that the majority of experienced NYC riders are aware of.

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17091213)

You're evading the point you brought up, but that's all right. I should have known that would be your "position." lol

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17092246)

Uh, yeah, facts, evasion, sure... Care to spread anymore misinformation about riding in NYC?

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17092922)

I misjudged you. You really are just an irate, combative troll intolerant of opinions differing from yours. lol I do find your attempts at goading entertaining, though.

I think its time for you to post another hackneyed banner. Come on, you can do it! Just Google "You mad Bro?" "Facepalm" "D*uchebag," or just go back ten years and find yourself one that says PWNED.

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17093068)

I see, facts = opinion. Got it. Have a good one!

Originally Posted by Spammy (Post 17094952)

I'm up at 3am every Thursday in downtown manhattan, out the door at 3am, keep my heart rate close to 85% for most of the ride to Coney and back about 26 miles. Manhattan Bridge through Dumbo, Red Hook, under the BQE to Bay Ridge Road, to 96th over to Coney, then Ocean Parkway back, Prospect Park, Flushing Traffic Sewer back to Manhattan Bridge. Sure, it's dark, but very light traffic, well lit, and large stretches where I can open up and either hit all the green lights or blow the red lights with a little close attention.

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 17095379)

Sounds like a great run. I may try this. The only concern I would have with night riding in NYC is getting knocked off your bike and robbed with some of the neighborhoods we like to ride through. I ride through those areas a lot, but I am not 100% sure about doing it in the middle of the night. Have you had any kinds of problems?

Originally Posted by Spammy (Post 17094952)

... under the BQE to Bay Ridge Road, to 96th over to Coney..

Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs (Post 17097785)

I got everything else except this, did you mean 3rd Ave (under the BQE...) to Shore Rd, and then 86th St. to Stillwell Ave., under the El, across to Coney?